On Sun, 11 May 2025, Patrice Riemens via nettime-l wrote:
Can the term ‘cloud fascism’ help us understand – and resist – the hard right?

Here's a fresh interview with Markus Beckedahl at the re:publica conference, talking about digital fascism. This is for the German-speaking part of the list (1:30 min opener of 8 min interview, mp4):

https://rodlzdf-a.akamaihd.net/none/3sat/25/05/250527_republica_beckedahl_kuz/1/250527_republica_beckedahl_kuz_808k_p11v17.mp4

3Sat | Kulturzeit | Markus Beckedahl über digitalen Faschismus | 27.05.2025

ciao, david


On Sun, 11 May 2025, Patrice Riemens via nettime-l wrote:



Original to:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/may/10/cloud-fascism-understand-resist-hard-right


Can the term ‘cloud fascism’ help us understand – and resist – the hard right?

Like clouds, far-right ideology moves here then there with absolute randomness. 
The danger is that those who can, shrink under their umbrellas

Ece Temelkuran, The Guardian, Sat 10 May 2025

Last month, a few weeks into the random detentions and denied entries at the US 
border, I was supposed to go to Princeton University as a guest lecturer to 
discuss global fascism. I asked the professors who invited me whether they 
thought it was safe to come. When I was in Turkey, European journalist friends 
once similarly asked me whether they’d be detained. And just as I did then, the 
American professors hesitated with half sentences: “Well, you know … ” It was 
decided that a law firm should be involved. After some back and forth, the 
final assessment remained unsettlingly ambiguous: “A detention is unlikely, but 
we cannot be sure.” Eventually, to be on the safe side, we choose the online 
option.

In the end all was fine on the surface, but I know from being on the other side 
of this story that the silk thread-like connection between us humans had been 
cut. They felt their land a shade darker, and I felt like giving up on the 
unfortunate in dire times. After all, I should know: this is how a country 
drifts into darkness – not by a dictator’s orders but rather by the outside 
world abandoning its people to their own means, by cutting millions of the 
threads that hold us as humanity together.

Meanwhile, what began as a shocking absurdity – academics, intellectuals and 
ordinary people with ideas being denied entry or sent to prison for weeks based 
on the search of their phone – quickly became ordinary. The unacceptable was 
normalised at such speed that, only a few weeks into the border crisis, the EU 
began issuing burner phones to its staff bound for the US. Some European 
countries warned their LGBTQ+ citizens to be cautious visiting the US in a tone 
akin to Tripadvisor travel tips. The charade began without warning and 
continues with absolute randomness. Trouble finds people as described in the 
assessment of my likely difficulties: “unlikely but not for sure”. And in that 
unsettling ambiguity lies the unique feature of today’s fascism.

Many of us – writers, thinkers and politicians – try to come up with a catchy 
term for today’s fascism. At the heart of it, I have come to think, lies not 
only the desire to analyse but also the urge to attract people’s attention so 
they are adequately alarmed. It may be an all too human urge to think: “If only 
we could find the right word, people would stop and listen. Perhaps then 
they’ll do something.” In fact, it is good old fascism, only with many new 
spectacles and glamorous gadgets, like an updated app with new features. One of 
these new features of 21st-century fascism is being cloud-like. After all, it 
is the political child of cloud capitalism.

The term was coined by the Greek economist and politician Yanis Varoufakis. He 
says there is a new economic system where big tech companies, particularly 
those operating in the cloud, have replaced traditional capitalist pillars like 
markets and profit with platforms and rents. This system is characterised by 
the creation of digital fiefdoms in which individuals, or fiefs, labour for 
these platforms. It is like in medieval times, but a techno version. Nobody, of 
course, throws themselves into this new form of slavery, yet things seemingly 
happen as if ordained by the natural order.

The term “cloud” reveals a lot about the world’s current reality. The cloudlike 
vagueness, fluidity and slipperiness of the system – its everywhereness but at 
the same time nowhereness – are quite like moving storm clouds. Right now it is 
in Turkey, operating through the imprisonment of Recep Tayyip Erdoğan’s 
political rivals; now it is in Israel, starving Palestinian children. After 
appearing on the Italian shores to push back refugees to the sea, it suddenly 
shows up in the US, raining on a new land through the border police. Cloud 
fascism has infinite hands committing unpredictable crimes with the randomness 
that we all try to catch up with and adapt to. Like the cloud fiefs, we get on 
with it. And after a short while we lose our ability to be shocked, unwillingly 
normalising the cloud, as if now it is a natural phenomenon we must live with. 
As if the cloud simply is. Just don’t take your phone with you to the US. Buy a 
burner. No big deal. If there is a cloud, get an umbrella and walk faster past 
those who do not have one.

The late Pope Francis called this umbrella attitude “global indifference”. He 
often referred to human dignity as the last defence line of human morality 
against the indignities of our present political and economic reality. As I 
perceive it, he didn’t mean only the dignity of the poor being broken by 
inequality. Dignity, as a central human value that unifies all of us, can be 
damaged in several other ways. Those who can afford the umbrellas to protect 
themselves from cloud fascism, who without any protest buy the burner phone, 
have their dignity broken too, even if they numb their heart not to feel it. 
The late pope didn’t stop at pointing out the wounded dignity of humanity; he 
alluded to civil resistance when he said that when the laws are not good 
enough, one can go against them to be on the side of the greater good.

Finally, in Wim Wenders’s documentary about him, he said: “Revolution. Don’t be 
afraid of the word.” A word that for a while has been accompanied by a smirk or 
a sarcastic air-quote hand gesture even in progressive intellectual circles. 
That smirk is the sign of our loss of faith in humanity and the beginning of 
our submission to the darkest cloud. Whereas the pope smiled when uttering the 
word – big difference.

This cloud of ours, this cloud fascism, is travelling the planet, showering us 
with acid rain. Yet each time it appears in a country, the citizens of the land 
behave as if it is the first time and only happening to them. The repeating 
astonishment marks the beginning of our retreat – and believing that a big 
enough umbrella, made solely for our nation, can save us is the dawn of our 
defeat. The question is whether we will blow away the cloud before the ultimate 
surrender. What stands between us, humanity and the dark cloud is the question 
of faith. Not in God, perhaps, but in the divinely joyous entity that 
materialises when people come together to defend their dignity. A cloud of 
resistance that is as random, fluid and unpredictable as cloud fascism. What 
can stop this acid rain is the everywhereness of the cloud resistance of human 
dignity. I am not saying revolution – well, after all, I am not the pope. May 
he rest in joy of dignity.

Ece Temelkuran is a Turkish journalist and political commentator, and author of 
How to Lose a Country: The 7 Steps from Democracy to Dictatorship




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