Quick pt: It's not 'symbolic' if you burn enough infrastructure. Sent from my iPhone
> On 17 Dec 2017, at 13:27, Vincent Van Uffelen <novazem...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 17/12/2017 10:07, e...@x80.org wrote: >> Morlock Elloi <morlockel...@gmail.com> writes: >> >>>> Echoing recent digital critics such as Douglas Rushkoff or even myself, >>>> they ask themselves what’s revolutionary or prophetic in an industry >>>> that relies on old-school capitalism, monopolies, micro-work, state >>>> regulations and money as a cardinal value. And as they reject the hacker >>>> myth, they end up calling a revered >>> "Hacker spaces" and similar are simply recruitment centers for the new >>> cognitive class that will facilitate the machine-mediated control of >>> the rest. People instinctively understand this, despite the deluge of >>> propaganda to the contrary. >>> >>> Computing machines are all about control. While there is a number of >>> positive side effects for those on the receiving side, ultimately it's >>> about control of the many by the few. Tending to computing machines >>> ('programming') has immediate gratification: you see many hapless >>> 'users' being controlled by your 'interface', following instructions >>> you embedded once into the machine, millions and millions of >>> times. You don't have to be there, they still obey you and your 'flow >>> design'. You created f*cking 15 ... 10 commandments! (nod to >>> Mr. Brooks.) You are god. This is the only reason why everyone and >>> their mother wants to 'learn' computing 'science'. >> I guess ignoring both the history and ample social contributions of the >> hacker and digital activism movements turns out to be very convenient to >> support that kind of victimised point of view. Oh, look! The machines >> made us slaves! >> >> You are correct about what the new cognitive class means for those not >> it in. Those who belong, they will be the rulers of tomorrow, and those >> who are left out, they will be the ones easy to control. >> >> The ruling class acts on a rational basis here, and a great war against >> knowledge and education is currently underway, fully supported by the >> capitalist elites. For them, restricting access to the cognitive class >> is a key point as low education levels are a critical factor for the >> survival of their status. >> >> For better or worse it seems to me that the only way to escape control >> from computers is not rejection, but in-depth education about them. >> >> E. > I agree, the world is as fucked as we allow it to (seem to) be, and, in my > eyes it is actually important to keep on revealing the opportunities that are > hiding in the gray scales. > > However, while some "hacker spaces" or "maker spaces" are founded and run by > members of the critical hacker/digital activist cultures the vast majority > are often run by way less politically engaged teams of technology enthusiasts > or even worse by larger institutions. Those spaces then primarily cultivate > the deep engagement with the numbing joys of learning and teaching of the > skillful mastery of technology and often fall totally flat on becoming a > fertile ground for critical capacity building. > > The question for me is though if burning the institution is actually the way > to challenge this? Isn't pure critique in damning words or symbolic acts (and > what else is the act of burning infrastructure) a bit too easy and actually > quite ineffective? Hacker spaces are means of amplifying certain individual > and societal habits, to change these it needs to make the institutions learn > new tricks. Many of these spaces are actually based on some DIY, DITO, > co-created, and co-organised visions and quite often run by well meaning > people that are open for active (as in willing and capable to spend the > needed time and energy to demonstrate the viability, validity, and utility of > change) critique. I believe that those spaces can be nudged to change, that > it is worth to try to claim influence over these valuable infrastructures, > and the potential actualized by trying to meddle with the organisational > structures of these places is effort way better spent than energetically, > conceptually, relationally, and culturally cheap one-off (ok, two-off so far) > interventions. > > \\vincent > > > > > > > # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission > # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, > # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets > # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l > # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org > # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject: # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject: