Julia and Angela,

Nettime was originally a club for the class of white male geeks who thought
they were making a new internet in the 90s. This class, in vehicles such as
unlike us, now fights a rearguard action against the FAANG monopolists.

Ted and Felix at one time proposed winding up the list, but settled for not
moderating posts instead. There have been very few trolls here and this may
have led them to feel that nettime could be self-governed, despite being
too narrowly conventional for their taste. It is easier for outsiders to
see and propose action against trolls (fascists) than insiders.

Ever since he appeared here, I have considered Bard to be a troll. I soon
chose to ignore him and felt even more justified by recent exchanges. I
prefer to make a positive case than waste my time on negative copy. Who
needs more gratuitous verbal violence than we get already? Member may point
to infringements of the rules, but the administrators choose when and how
to moderate.

I stick with nettime because a few of the arguments are interesting, I can
spot them quickly and I may have something to say. There are citation
cliques here as everywhere; and my last post was swamped by Brian's and
only acknowledged later by Dan Wang. The attention economy of nettime can
be wearisome, but I can live with that for the sake of the benefits.

Nettime is a self-selecting coterie of windbags whose posts have no real
world political significance. But some of us like it. It is not surprising
that we don't have a politics of dealing with trolls, even less fascists.

Keith

On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 11:12 AM Julia Röder <juv...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> so, is that it? silence about this from the whole list except from angela?
> do you all not say anything because you think this is trolling or this is
> normal??
>


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