Tue, 6 Oct 2020 11:12:55 -0500, Frederic Neyrat wrote:

> A subject, be it collective or individual, is always divided. The One is an
> imposture.

Thank you Frederic, for stating what I would have hoped was a shared 
understanding of nation-state politics, especially on an international list 
focused on “networked culture.” 

I wrote the following just before receiving Frederic's message, then decided 
not to send it. But, maybe it’s worth adding to Frederic’s rightful call to 
dispense with the collapsing of people into nation-states? Anyway, here it is...

I don’t mean to overstate the point here, but discussions of “democracy in the 
US” (as with discussions of the political economy anywhere in the world) should 
really be more responsible to actual history. Personally, I think such 
responsibility is necessary to have a meaningful international leftist 
perspective on solidarity.
For starters, the settler-colonial status of the US as an ongoing form of 
occupation can’t be simply glossed over.
But specifically to the question of democracy, it might be more useful to 
understand the situation as the *continued prevention* of democracy, rather 
than its collapse, as if it was somehow ever stable or even meaningfully 
democratic in some historical sense.
Just to provide *some* specifics.
It would be ridiculous to consider the rollback of voting rights for formerly 
incarcerated individuals (essentially a poll tax) in my settler home state of 
Florida without recognizing that the very rights being undermined *were just 
recently granted* to begin with.
Exactly 100 years ago there, leading up to the 1920 election, there was 
widespread mass violence perpetrated against black residents to re-solidify an 
anti-democratic, white supremacist regime.
For anyone interested in this specific history who is not familiar, I’d 
recommend Paul Ortiz’s excellent book “Emancipation Betrayed.”

Trump may be a glaring and garish example of white supremacist 
anti-democratic/fascism in the US, but it’s not like the foundation wasn’t 
already set. 
IF we’re able to move the US in a more democratic direction, it will be through 
continued struggle that builds on the history of such struggles that have been 
occurring for well over 100 years (some would say it’s more like 500 years). 
IMHO, these struggles are not best understood as trying to *perfect* the US as 
a democracy, but as part of a movement to achieve (and maintain) liberation for 
all people (which is no simple concept in a settler-colonial state). Our 
foundation as a nation-state built on internationally coordinated, genocidal 
violence (that predates the actual US nation-state, obviously) seems like it 
begs for us to understand the US beyond the exceptional, cohesive case put 
forward by the ruling classes (i.e. settler white supremacists and neoliberal 
oligarchs).

Apologies if this is all pedantic… I’m just frustrated by the tone of 
discussions about “American Democracy” that maintains imaginary clean 
spatio-temporal boundaries that prevents us from talking about actual struggles 
for liberation, both “inside” and “outside” any enforced borders.

Best,
Ryan
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