It was definitely a mob, and I think Geert is right that this particular event 
had no clear command.

But I would caution against assuming these rioters were all poor white folk or 
that this was primarily about class. Many in the mob have now been identified, 
and there were plenty of white collar hooligans in the mix, some flying in on 
their private jets. The formation and legacies of whiteness in the US are a key 
animating factor here in a way that crosses class lines. It also fuels the way 
the mob claimed the title “patriot” and invoked 1776.

Tara

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Good question, Keith.

Was it a putch without a purpose of a mob without a cause? For sure they were 
all revved up, dazed by meme magick and shit, looking for the best selfie 
opportunity.

Once we enter the heart of the power, and roam around there, we do not face 
power as such. No need to repeat here what Foucault and many other after him 
have written about power. We know, but what if one has to experience this at 
first hand, as riot tourists?

The warriors were running through corridors, without a plan, needless to say, 
without their leader, as he was sitting in front of his TV set, around the 
corner, enjoying the images, watching the spectacle unfold, yet remaining 
silent at the decisive moment.

There was no command, no plan, not even a serious counterforce. At best it was 
a ‘disruption’ such as promoted by Silicon Valley venture capitalists.

Geert

> On 8 Jan 2021, at 4:39 pm, Keith Sanborn <mrz...@panix.com> wrote:
>
> Put another way, was it the burning of the Reichstag or the storming of the 
> Winter Palace? or neither?



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