To complete the trilogy, for this particular list at the conjunction of art, technology, and politics, this piece on "tactical memory" discusses how the right to create might affect what happens politically online. http://people.tamu.edu/~braman/bramanpdfs/89_tacticalmemory.pdf
On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 10:31 AM bronac ferran <bron...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks Sandra > That is a fascinating read and very much on topic. > > B > > On Sun, 28 Mar 2021 at 15:37, Sandra Braman <bramansan...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> This piece from 1996 on art and various forms of capital in the digital >> world has some things to say that are pertinent to this interesting >> conversation. You'll see some theorists not as present in ongoing >> conversation these days as they were then, but I stand on the piece. >> >> "Art in the Information Economy" >> http://people.tamu.edu/~braman/bramanpdfs/011_art.pdf >> >> Sandra Braman >> >> On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 5:00 AM <nettime-l-requ...@mail.kein.org> wrote: >> >>> Send nettime-l mailing list submissions to >>> nettime-l@mail.kein.org >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> nettime-l-requ...@mail.kein.org >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> nettime-l-ow...@mail.kein.org >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of nettime-l digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: what does monetary value indicate? (Molly Hankwitz) >>> 2. Re: what does monetary value indicate? (Brian Holmes) >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2021 18:50:30 -0700 >>> From: Molly Hankwitz <mollyhankw...@gmail.com> >>> To: Michael Goldhaber <mich...@goldhaber.org> >>> Cc: nettime-l@mail.kein.org >>> Subject: Re: <nettime> what does monetary value indicate? >>> Message-ID: >>> <CAH5TXpxUg4Lor3z=BLftTdqghDAk= >>> kxgknej_1keo49o4w_...@mail.gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> Hi Michael, >>> >>> Or, maybe, originality has been all along, a fictional history, and a >>> signifier for fictional social relations in much art history, if only to >>> justify value through ?scarcity? (genius and originality are rare) or >>> create its justification (there is only one original) and to obscure >>> modes >>> of artistic production not about ?sole? authorship and individual >>> creativity? Somewhere along the line, ?originality? was seen to be a >>> valuable asset in art making, taught, told, produced, encouraged, and >>> then >>> it died many deaths as a concept; as something to strive for or achieve >>> or >>> practice or expect? ?Death of the author?, digital reproducibility, >>> post-medium conditions, AI Art, all seemingly question or consider at >>> least >>> art without ?originality?. >>> We have replaced this expectation instead with collectivity, >>> collaboration, >>> stakeholders, or, much more importantly, maybe, the artist as an >>> ?original? >>> interpreter of systems. So, I?m thinking that the new artist might be >>> more >>> akin to an economist who comprehends the communication of value or an >>> artist who digs deeply into AI enough to transform it...originally. This >>> appears to me by way of Paglen, Steryel, and others to be a trend. Artist >>> as ?administrative author? or initiator of a system, through which >>> communities can act, somewhat recursively to establish value, and/or >>> prosper via, for instance, a shared currency? >>> >>> (Fresh from MoneyLab events) >>> >>> Molly >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 4:02 PM Michael Goldhaber <mich...@goldhaber.org >>> > >>> wrote: >>> >>> > On Mar 27, 2021, at 1:27 PM, Molly Hankwitz <mollyhankw...@gmail.com> >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > ..how original is original when originality died long ago ? >>> > >>> > >>> > Yes, originality died with the second cave painting, but has been >>> reborn >>> > many times since, even if only evident to new generations. Depending >>> on >>> > the fineness of your mesh, it is always relatively rare, and thus, >>> with so >>> > many trying for it today, perhaps easily not seen. But I bet still >>> around. >>> > >>> > >>> > Best, >>> > >>> > Michael >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> >>> >>> molly hankwitz - she/her >>> http://bivoulab.org >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: < >>> http://mx.kein.org/pipermail/nettime-l/attachments/20210327/1483fa99/attachment-0001.html >>> > >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2021 23:28:14 -0500 >>> From: Brian Holmes <bhcontinentaldr...@gmail.com> >>> To: Molly Hankwitz <mollyhankw...@gmail.com> >>> Cc: a moderated mailing list for net criticism >>> <nettime-l@mail.kein.org> >>> Subject: Re: <nettime> what does monetary value indicate? >>> Message-ID: >>> < >>> canuitgwqjvwcrzinuz6z51jyrwwzng0jw-gxohdbtstzmev...@mail.gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 8:51 PM Molly Hankwitz <mollyhankw...@gmail.com> >>> asked: >>> >>> Artist as ?administrative author? or initiator of a system, through which >>> > communities can act, somewhat recursively to establish value, and/or >>> > prosper via, for instance, a shared currency? >>> > >>> >>> I am fascinated by the concept of the artist as "initiator of a system," >>> it's the most profound and still-relevant notion of art to come out of >>> the >>> late 20th century. To initiate a system is to open up the field in which >>> something like orientation or valuation can take place. Exactly what the >>> orientations and values must be is not initially prescribed, but still, >>> the >>> coordinates and the terms of measure are made available and shared, as we >>> all know from software and activist movements and even love (let's think >>> co-initiators). >>> >>> But the demon of contradiction wants me to take something so admirable >>> into >>> a more troubling direction, which could have some bearing on Felix's >>> question of NFT motivations. >>> >>> There were these two dudes, I happen to know their story, Leo Melamed, >>> the >>> star trader of the Chicago Mercantile Exchange, and Milton Friedman - >>> well, >>> you get the picture. Leo went to listen in on the classes given by ol' >>> Milt >>> at the University of Chicago, notably because of the idea that in a world >>> of floating currency values, futures markets would easily emerge. Money >>> could be made from the possible future values of money - it fired >>> Melamed's >>> imagination. When Nixon suspended the Bretton Woods treaties and opened >>> up >>> the floating world, Leo commissioned Milt to write an authoritative >>> paper, >>> and the two co-initiators went to Washington to institute a new world >>> order. Legal to boot. Friedman rang the bell at the opening of the >>> International Monetary Market on May 16, 1972. It opened up the entire >>> computational space of financial derivatives. You can read Melamed's >>> prose >>> if you're curious, but you gotta see the look on Friedman's face: >>> https://bit.ly/3rvC1t8 >>> >>> NFTs are gesturing toward a new market, a hitherto unknown territory of >>> abstraction. For a financier this would be the equivalent of the voyages >>> of >>> discovery - Christopher Columbus. The everyday lives will get colonized >>> later on. Right now these people have the sense of establishing, not just >>> an asset class, but something new under the sun. They feel like world >>> movers. >>> >>> The weird thing is that I think many of us can imagine it, at least a >>> little bit. Do you remember what it was like, co-initiating >>> social-computational systems? Maybe you still do it? >>> >>> Around that time back in the early 70s, the conceptual artist Marcel >>> Broodthaers was ironically exploring what he called "the conquest of >>> space." It was about Columbus and the art market and the Apollo Program. >>> Certainly with the symbolic space they opened up - now the Globex trading >>> platform - Friedman and Melamed oriented the whole neoliberal period. >>> They >>> discovered a new America. They created and administrated what you might >>> call an effective abstraction, which has not yet ceased to govern the >>> vast >>> lifeworlds of just-in-time production and distribution. This is the >>> terrifying other side of initiating systems. >>> >>> NFTs are not going to rule the world. This is an attempted conquest of >>> art-market space. But the desire it attempts to symbolize is significant. >>> What kind of currency would a computational oligarchy need for the era of >>> accelerated technological change and asymptotically granular population >>> control that is emerging as a possibility right now, through the >>> ubiquitous >>> applications of AI? In the best of cases this would have to be a truly >>> common currency, enabling resilience, adaptation, transformation for the >>> future 9 billions of human earthlings - and infinite other species. In >>> the >>> worst of cases, it would be the currency of a veritable state-financial >>> nexus, the kind David Harvey talks about, where privatized monetary >>> creation is the enabler of hyper flexible bureaucratic control. >>> >>> Frankly, just reading the newspapers, I see a huge struggle going on over >>> the initiation of systems. Either you get eco-socialism, or you get the >>> nexus. >>> >>> Meanwhile I see lots of artists trying to invent new blockchain >>> currencies. >>> But who is the Marcel Broodthaers of the onrushing AI era? 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