On Thu, 2007-10-11 at 12:31 -0300, Joel Goguen wrote: > I have a need for it, and I imagine it's a common one. I have a > wireless network at home, and I put the laptop to sleep and head to my > university. When I get there, I have to wait sometimes minutes for > the list to refresh and my campus network to appear so NM can attempt > to connect to it. Or I can open a terminal and manually restart NM, > but that's not something a common user should be expected to do IMO. > When I first get to campus I still see all the networks I can see from > my house, even though none of them are anywhere near the campus. > After a few minutes of waiting, during which I'm checking the applet > list at least once every 30 seconds, the list finally refreshes and NM > connects to my campus network. This doesn't seem very user-friendly > to me.
This is likely a distro or driver problem. When NM is told to go to sleep (whcih your setup may not be doing), it will blow away _all_ network state. That means, when NM wakes up (if told to wake up correctly), it won't know about _any_ networks. It will rescan immediately. If it's getting stale networks when you turn it back on, that's clearly a sleep/wake bug, or a driver bug. dan > > On 10/11/07, Dan Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-10-11 at 18:08 +0300, Joan B. Moreau wrote: > > > Ok, but it is just a pain in the *ss this bug, and everybody complains. > > > > > > Please, rather than saying "I disagree", maybe propose an alternative, > > > because it is really annoying bug. > > > > We already discussed alternatives on this list. First, NM should scan > > quite quickly after dropping the menu down, as long as NM has not > > scanned within the last 20 seconds. Currently that may not be the case, > > it might push off the scan for 20 seconds. This is a case of a bug that > > should be fixed (if it exists). > > > > Furthermore, I don't believe that it's that much of a burden to check > > the menu twice. Can you refresh my memory as to what situations > > explicitly scanning for networks is necessary? The applet should be > > kept simple, additional functionality that doesn't fit in the applet can > > certainly be farmed out to other tools that are not the applet or NM. > > The applet should cover 90% of all users needs 90% of the time. It > > should _not_ cover 100% of all users needs 100% of the time. There are > > some features that just won't be implemented. I believe explicitly scan > > requests fit in that last 10%. I may be able to be convinced otherwise. > > > > Dan > > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > > > Dan Williams wrote: > > > > On Thu, 2007-10-11 at 17:20 +0300, Joan B. Moreau wrote: > > > > > > > >> I know this has been posted and discussed already, but this bug is *so* > > > >> annoying, that I guess I am not the only "simple user" having troubles > > > >> with that. > > > >> > > > >> Would it be possible to fix it ? > > > >> > > > > > > > > I still don't agree that this is the right way to solve the issue. > > > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > > >> Thanks a lot > > > >> > > > >> JM > > > >> > > > >> Joan B. Moreau wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> Hi all, > > > >>> > > > >>> I like the applet but here my request in terms of ergonomy: > > > >>> > > > >>> Would it be possible to stop triggering a scan when clicking on the > > > >>> applet (which people do quite frequently to see the available > > > >>> networks) > > > >>> but rather put a menu item "scan for available networks" that we can > > > >>> click when one decide so ? > > > >>> > > > >>> Thanks > > > >>> > > > >>> Joan > > > >>> > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> NetworkManager-list mailing list > > > >> NetworkManager-list@gnome.org > > > >> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NetworkManager-list mailing list > > NetworkManager-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list > > > > _______________________________________________ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list