The kind of fail-over detection I was thinking of is focused on the use
case of:

(1) a machine with both a wired and wireless connection, on a single network
with a single gateway
(2) the user sometimes disconnects the wired connection and takes the laptop
somewhere else

   For this use case, you would not need any kind of continual ping. (if you
were trying to have redundant ISPs, that would be a separate issue.) You
would only need ARP to detect if the router is still "up" during a failover.
For other use cases, I agree, you wouldn't want to limit yourself to ICMP
pings.

   I'm still pondering the potential security issues of a setup like this.
Someone would have to set up a wireless network to look just like your wired
network, and spoof the router MAC. But they wouldn't be able to pass the
"bridge test". That is, you could confirm that it is the same network by
sending out a packet on one interface and confirming that you receive it on
the other.

Mike

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 9:35 AM, John Mahoney <jmaho...@waav.com> wrote:

> I like the idea of the "MAC-detection or ping functionality", might I
> recommend using httping it tends to appear more friendly to the general
> public and is less likely to be dropped than a ping by networks.
>
> The method of having multiply default routes with different weights is not
> the same as having two *active* default routes.  If two defaults routes were
> active and load balancing was to be performed  it would have to be balanced
> per (src ip,dest ip) tuple flows so that related connections were not
> confused.
>
> I would love to see fail-over, as I'm sure many others would.
>
> --
> John
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Dan Williams <d...@redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 17:47 +0200, Nicolò Chieffo wrote:
>> > So do you confirm that having more that one default route to gateway
>> > (at the same time) will break things down?
>>
>> Oh, it won't break things down at all.  But the first default route in
>> the routing table will be the one that gets used for new outgoing
>> connections.  So it's pretty pointless to have more than one at a time.
>> Only one can truly the be the "default" route, and if you have more than
>> one, the lower-priority ones are more or less ignored by the kernel
>> entirely.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> > If so, I will wait for a graphic way to disconnect devices separately.
>> > Is this in your plans?
>>
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