On Thu, 2015-03-12 at 13:30 +0100, Thomas Haller wrote:
> On Thu, 2015-03-12 at 07:32 -0400, Pavel Simerda wrote:
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Thomas Haller" <thal...@redhat.com>
> > > To: "Harald Dunkel" <harald.dun...@aixigo.de>
> > > Cc: "networkmanager." <networkmanager-list@gnome.org>, "Pavel Simerda" 
> > > <psime...@redhat.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 11:54:49 AM
> > > Subject: Re: No more IPv4 address after boot up since NM 0.9.10
> > > 
> > > On Thu, 2015-03-12 at 10:32 +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 04 Mar 2015 18:15:43 +0100
> > > > Frederik Himpe <frede...@frehi.be> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I still think that NM's behaviour not to touch the interface when it's
> > > > > up already is counter-intuitive. If I start up NM with a configuration
> > > > > for eth0, then I _do_ want this configuration to be applied, just like
> > > > > the distro specific init networking scripts would do. If you don't 
> > > > > want
> > > > > NM to touch an existing interface, then it makes more sense to me to
> > > > > completely disable NM, or to set this specific interface unmanaged in
> > > > > NM.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Maybe this behaviour should be configurable?
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I am affected by exactly the same problem, and I completely agree
> > > > with Frederik. Some improvement here would be highly appreciated.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ok, but what is the concrete suggestion?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > How about adding a autoconnect-boot argument to a connection.
> > 
> > What about my original suggestion of "onboot" as a separate option
> > from "auto"[1] plus a new behavior that "onboot" connections would
> > be enforced even if the device is already configured?
> > 
> > [1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=700651
> 
> ah right. that was it.

ISTR the issue with that would be how to not break existing behavior
that assumes that onboot is TRUE.  Plus the original onboot stuff was
about blocking startup, not forcefully starting the connection?

Dan

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