After i installed Mandrake I setup the Graphic login screen so it would always startx without typing anything. Not only was it better looking than the bird, but it also hid most of what make my wife shake her head at. She liked it alot more after i changed it and to my surprise was really getting into it. I updated the kernel to 2.2.3-1 . but now i can't fiugure out how to get the login back. Here's how I did it the first time. This is right out of the Redhat 5.1 book As root I logged in. I typed: /sbin/telinit 5 to test it to make sure my system was setup right to run it.. After I got the new login screen I . logged in and edited the /etc/inittab file changing the line: id:3:initdefaulf: to id:5:initefault: I never got past the test since I updated. I also found this in the bottom of the inittab file. # Run xdm in runlevel 5 # xdm is now a separate service #x:5:respawn:/usr/bin/X11/xdm -nodaemon Any ideas??? Thanks Steven G