I have had a similar lock-up with konsole, last night in fact.  

The  lock up occurred when I swapped to Midnight Commander (using the drop
down menu - I can't remember which one).  I am assuming that if an offending
software program locks up while it is reading from the keyboard and/or mouse
the keyboard and/or mouse cannot be accessed by other programmes.  I am
guessing that in my case the keyboard and mouse were inputting to konsole
when konsole locked.  Escape keys [ctrl-alt-backspace] could not be 'read'
by X to escape because they were tied to the locked up konsole programme.

This is all speculation so I would be interested to know whether I am right
or not.  I guess that in a situation like this linux hasn't crashed or
locked up, but an application has and it has rendered the workstation
useless, unless of course you can telnet in and kill the offending
programme.

Aaron

> -----Original Message-----
> From: pete moss [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, October 04, 1999 2:12 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      Re: [newbie] preventing software lockups
> 
> ok:
> 
> 1) Free drive space
>      about 300Mb free on /
>      several gig free on /home
> 
> 2) Memory (free and total)
>      at this moment:
>              total       used       free     shared    buffers    
> cached
> Mem:         63056      61492       1564      17856       1308     
> 14268
> -/+ buffers/cache:      45916      17140
> Swap:       104384       6212      98172
> 
> is there a way to free up more ram?  i am planning to purchase more, but
> it seems that 1.5 meg free is a bit bad.  i am running X though.
> 
> 3) Hardware -- processor, video card, motherboard/chipset, etc
>      Pentium II 350MHz
>      64 meg ram
>      linux lives on a 6.4 gig WD hd, windows lives on a 4.3 gig WD hd
>      Diamond stealth 3d video card (S3 virge gx2 video chipset)
>      dont remember the motherboard, but i can look it up if necessary
> 
> 4) SCSI or IDE
>      ide
> 
> 5) Anything else even remotely relevant!
>      this didnt happen with these particular programs in 6.0.  i did a
> clean upgrade to 6.1.  i dont have another machine handy (except my Palm
> IIIx!) to telnet in with.
>      regular xterm locks sometimes too. :(  its getting to the point
> where i cant run a terminal in X.  i dont need to tell you why that
> sucks.
> 
> another thing i might try is to use the old gnome-terminal from 6.0 and
> see if that works.  anyone know how to get a single file out of an rpm?
> 
> :P
>    
> 
> John Aldrich wrote:
> > 
> > On Sun, 03 Oct 1999, you wrote:
> > > can someone in the know give me any hints as to what to do about some
> > > software that locks the computer.  everytime i run the gnome-terminal,
> > > it locks the computer so that nothing works except for a hard reset.
> i
> > > have tried reinstalling gnome-core*.rpm by overwriting or deleting and
> > > then reinstalling.  i am also having trouble with some of the
> > > screensavers that lock up the system as soon as they start.  is there
> > > something i can do about it?  deleting and reinstalling doesnt do it.
> > > would recompiling help?  why is it locking my machine but not others?
> i
> > > have checked my system logs and nothing is mentioned about the
> offending
> > > software.  i am running 6.1.
> > >
> > Please give us some information about your system:
> > 1) Free drive space
> > 2) Memory (free and total)
> > 3) Hardware -- processor, video card, motherboard/chipset, etc
> > 4) SCSI or IDE
> > 5) Anything else even remotely relevant!
> > 
> > As a suggestion....if you have another machine handy, try telnetting
> > to your "locked" machine (or get and install SSH if you don't want to
> > leave Telnet open) and issue the reboot command remotely.
> >         John

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