First off, let me say that I am not affiliated with this site in any way; I saw the site and found it interesting. It's called XNOT, and they host web pages, FTP, chat, message boards, and more for free if it is an open source project. I've taken a cursory look at the main site, and it looks promising for anyone here who is a developer in the open source community. The URL is http://www.xnot.com Manny Styles [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---- __________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html