>-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Anne Wilson >Sent: Tuesday, 9 September 2003 5:29 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions > > >On Monday 08 Sep 2003 7:46 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: >> On Monday September 8 2003 11:27 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: >> > > Most decent HS's now ship with grease, not pads. There's >> > > two big problems with pads. They're not as heat transfer >> > > efficent as grease, and they deteriorate fairly quickly. Often >> > > in just a few months. The hotter the processor runs, the >> > > quicker the pads fail. >> > >> > I hate to horn in on this Tom, but you made it too interesting. >> > ;) >> >> No problem, the more the merrier. As I said earlier 'never take >> just one person's advice'. >> >> > I would like to add that pads are one shots. >> >> True. >> >> > They are designed >> > for one mounting and one only; after that their efficiency is >> > shot. Theoretically pads are supposed to have an advantage over >> > grease, but only if you never upgrade. (i.e., remove the heat >> > sink and put it back with the same pad) Also much of the >> > "efficiency advantage" is lost comparatively speaking if you use >> > a superior heat compound like Arctic Silver 3, which is according >> > to test results the best stuff on the market right now. >> >> Here we differ. The pads are not as efficient. They soon >> detiorate, often gettin dried out and baked, split an cracked, >> almost turned into dust. Even if never disturbed. I've dealt with >> 'problem hardware', where the pad had burned away to nothin. Even >> worse, usually on the cache side of the die where it's needed the >> most. Causing the HS to tip slightly, an then not work for the >> other side either. >> >> As to 'a superior heat compound like Arctic Silver 3' that's all >> marketing B$. Radio Shack's $3 tube that'll build several dozens of >> systems is just as good. Even the little generic silicon based bits >> of grease they now ship on or with heatsinks is just as good. The >> XP 3000+ kit (I've overclocked to 2323mhz from 2166), came with a >> generic HS that had grease already on the HS's base. I judged it >> too thick an scaped some off. Spread it thinner, cleaned of the >> excess, an attached it to the cpu. Temps are normal for an >> overclocked system. They wouldn't be a half degree lower with >> Arctic Silver. Even in south Texas ;) >> >> > One more suggestion I have, and I think it's the most important >> > one, wear your static wrist band secured to a valid earth ground >> > while you are inside the machine, so that you will keep your >> > computer equipment in mint condition. >> > >> > LX >> >> I don't fool with those things. Work on the system barefoot on >> a tile floor ... no static. Just touch the case every once'n a >> while to make sure you're discharged. A few beers doesn't hurt >> either, MOF it's a prerequisite. 'Sides, soon as I get to pushin >> hardware to it's limit, it's no longer "mint condition" ;) > >All comments noted, thanks. As for static, I've always gone for the >plugged in at the wall to earth the box (don't forget we switch our >wall boxes here), and always keep skin in contact with box while >handling anything. I've never had a fault due to static. I'm very >careful, though.
FRANKI: I worked for two computer wholesalers, and apart from grounded steel benches, they used no other anti static devices.. and they shipped enormous quantities of ram... both had very low return rates for dud ram, so as long as you take minor precautions, you don't need static straps, just leave the case plugged in, and touch the metal alot. rgds Franki Mandrake Gamers mailing list: htmlfixit.com/mailman/listinfo/mandrake-games HTML Perl PHP n stuff.. htmlfixit.com
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