On Sunday 14 December 2003 03:04 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > >>I just got an Asus A7V600.  It works nicely with 9.2,
> > >> though only three of my five speakers work with onboard
> > >> sound.  What the hell, my sound card should be arriving on
> > >> Wednesday, so I can have fun wrestling with that instead
> > >> ;-)
> > >>
> > >>Sir Robin
> > >
> > > That's not on the TWiki page either, Sir Robin!   Consider
> > > your hand slapped <g>
> >
> > [rubs hand]
> > OK, it's up there.
>
> Seen it, thanks.  We'll get that list to a really usable size
> before long.
>
> Anne

    I'm just gonna reiterate some previous cautions I've mentioned 
about TWiki (for which I'm probly still in the doghouse). 

   First of all the intention and effort is laudable. It will only 
continue as such if it's totally constantly maintained and 
changed. It has no advice (opinions) contained that are carved in 
stone. It should prominently mention that the suggestions 
contained in various parts, are just that suggestions, opinions, 
ie, 'worked for me' and 'YMMV'. Not giving the impression of real 
world real time solutions. One of the reasons MandrakeUser became 
ineffectual and in many parts wrong and dated. 

    For hardware, well idiots like me know that's a changing deal, 
month to month. Case in point, I suspect Robin might'a got an 
AV7600 due to my referrences to it on the OT_her list. With 
latest 2.4.23 kernel's the board needs 'nolapic' passed to it to 
avoid kernel panics, specially under a load like sound or video 
encoding/decoding. A board difficiency or a need for the new 
kernel to mature more? To state either would be just an opinion. 
The board is great for 9.2 an early 10.0, but will it still be 
good for 10.0 final? Can prior kernel releases function with it? 
I've all but completely eliminated panics by moderating ram 
timings, increasing Vcore and IO voltages a touch, and using 
2.4.23 kernel versions cautiously. Could be try'n to change PCI 
slots I use for the one card in the system. Point is, variables, 
and the permutations are a real problem. Then add in users.

   Before I got an AV7600 I researched it's components. I didn't 
use twiki's or hardware sites. I use Google and mailing list 
archives. Particularly the current linux-kernel ml (lkml). The 
study requires searching by components. Searching by mobo model 
number is mostly useless. For example, the integrated NIC is very 
new to market, 3c940. It has a 3com/Asus Linux driver for it, 
that doesn't work with (compile against) newer kernels. NBD for 
me, I had an old D-link card sittin around, and the onboard 3c is 
easily disasabled in bios.

   Similar deal with the integrated sound. The (separate, not part 
of the VIA south bridge chipset) is an Analog Devices Inc. 
ADI-1980, AC97 codec compliant. Fortunately, the VIA driver in 
current kernels works for this chip. For me, and my speaker 
system. It's a 6-channel sound device, that as Robin seems to 
have found, doesn't support more than 2 chl. for his use. Works 
for me, not for him. Variables.

    Nothin on the board is of any other particular interest, other 
than the KT600 chipset with 400Mhz cpu support. Since this isn't 
really new to the Linux kernel, VIA chipset support is almost a 
sure thing goin in. A read of lkml would probly be more 
discouraging for any other chipset vendor, specially nForce*. 
Well there are also SATA ports, but anybody who's a bit savy 
would know to avoid SATA anyhow, any OS.  Does an opinion like 
that reflect TWiki 'documentation'?  I think not but Google or 
lkml will lead you too it.

    Now these motherboard, hardware and such are particulars, and 
involve opinion. The info doesn't belong in a TWiki, and probly 
won't be valid longer than next month.  Same deal with 
applications and configuration. How to do it in the X.1 version 
is completely wrong for X.11. Google and the lkml are by nature 
not as susceptible to such degeneration. Opinons are always 
inescapable.

   So IMO, TWiki should prominenty be displayed as "At the current 
time, this is a best guess from various contributors, mostly 
gathered from mailing lists. It is not supported or endorsed by 
anyone. Use at your own risk."    
-- 
      Tom Brinkman                 Corpus Christi, Texas

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