>-----Original Message-----
>From: Derek Jennings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 11:43 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [newbie] Upgrading, backing up, and
restoring 
>data - moving from 9.1 to 9.2
>
>On Wednesday 07 Jan 2004 4:13 pm, Tango Echo wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've recently decided to take the plunge and use
9.2
>> as my base OS.  I'm performing a clean install on a
>> brand new hard drive.  My old mdk 9.1 install still
>> resides on two old hard disks.  My question is
this:
>>
>> Is there a simple way to restore my data from 9.1?
>> The main apps that need to be restored are GAIM,
>> Evolution, and Kmail.  While I do need the info
back
>> from them, I DO NOT want to over write system files
>> since 9.2 has newer packages installed.  I've heard
>> some people just copy the old folder back (so I'd
copy
>> my old Tango directory to over write my current
Tango directory).  
>> That would over write the sys files IMO. I know
Mandrake has a 
>> backup/restore utility too, but I'm not sure if
that applies here.
>>
>> Lastly, if no solution is available, why not?  It
>> would seem simple enough to me.  Just make a
program
>> or bash script that copies all the data files (not
>> system files) to another hard drive or cd, then run
it
>> again to restore them.  I'm sure many of you must
go
>> thru this at the rate we upgrade.  This is the
biggest
>> pain of the upgrade procedure IMO.  Tweaking my eye
>> candy in the new version, etc is no big deal, it's
>> trying to remember what files go where
>> w/backup/restore, etc.....
>>
>> Any ideas here?
>>
>The only places where configuration is held is in
/etc  for system 
>configuration and in your home directory for user
configuration.
>
>So for example to have the same samba configuration
in your 
>new set up copy 
>the old contents into /etc/samba
>
>To get your user setting for gaim back just copy the
contents 
>of ~/.gaim  back 
>into your home. (Note files beginning with '.' are
hidden)
>
>Many of us get around the issue by keeping /home on a
separate 
>partition, and 
>then simply not formatting that partition when doing
a new 
>install. All your 
>configurations and user files are therefore
preserved.
>
>One work of warning though. All files in Linux have a
UID 
>(User Ident Number) 
>and GID (Group Ident Number) It is vital for your
users to 
>have the same 
>UID/GID numbers between installs or else you would
end up not 
>owning your own 
>files. The simple way around the issue is to always
add your 
>users in the 
>same order when you install. The first user is UID
501 the 
>second is 502 etc. (This gets a bit complicated if
you use 
>Userdrake to add users because it will 
>start adding users with a UID of 500)
>
>BTW: If you use drakbackup  to back up your system it
will 
>save the users home 
>directories and the contents of /etc which you can
then use to 
>set up a new  
>install.
>
>derek

Thanks for the detailed reply Derek =) !
Now, am I understanding you correctly that worrying
about app file over writes is not an issue?  That was
primarily what I was worried about.  For example, if
app files such as those that make up mozilla 1.3 are
in the Tango directory and I install 9.2, will 1.3 be
the browser if I copy the Tango dir back? Or are all
working app files stored outside of ~ ?  I realize you
said sys config files are in /etc but I want to make
sure you didn't mean app files - those that make up
the actual program (probably should've used 'app file'
vs. 'sys file').

I've heard of the seperate /home partition, but looks
like this will be something I need to do!  Can you
give me a modern expectation for size allocation of /?
I've heard 1.5 - 2 times for swap, and /home takes
what's left after /, but I've never really known what
to allocate for just /... I've got around 50 GB to
spare for the partitioning.

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