----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Meyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 07:14 Subject: Re: [newbie] Ready for upgrade?
> On Wednesday 28 January 2004 04:21 am, Derek Jennings wrote: > > On Wednesday 28 Jan 2004 4:04 am, Hoyt Bailey wrote: > > > Mandrake 9.2: > forever Is forever > 7 days? > > > 2. Is there an upgrade program like "getright" or simular that can be > > > used? > > urpmi --auto-select should work nicely. What is getright? An excellent download manager for Windows. It takes care of everyting very well. > > > > 3. What should I do to get ready for this? > > Get a set of disks from somewhere. I have downloaded the 3 CD set in 4 days, if I had been smarter I could have done it in 3 days. > > > # 3 is the biggest concern. I.E. Should I uninstall the program > > > currently installed before installing a new version? How does the system > > > know what programs to download or do I have to do each rpm by itself? I > > > need as much verbage as you are willing to write. > > > > urpmi will automatically handle all of this, all you need is a fat pipe to the > net. O well I'll just have to do it with a skinny pipe. > > 1/ It will take a gazillion years on dialup. There are a lot of updates for > > Yes, if you are on dialup, I highly recommend getting yourself a set of disks > somehow. It will be nearly impossible to do on dial-up and if you try it, > you could completely hose your system if the connection craps out and you > can't reconnect because you are at a stage that leaves the system unable to > reconnect. Get a set of disks by buying a Pack from MandrakeSoft or if you > can't afford that spend the $6 to get them from Cheapbytes, or maybe a nice > user will send you a set for postage if you ask nice. > > > 9.2 However you can do it in small steps at a time. Implement the important > > upgrades first and do a few each time you connect. The most important > > package to upgrade is the 'rpm' package because that one causes your KDE > > menus to disappear if you do not upgrade it. > > > To do it over the net if you can get a broadband connection, I would recommend > adding the 9.2 main and update sources and then go in this order using urpmi. Where do you add the 9.2 and update sources? > Make sure you included an update source when you add because urpmi is nice > because it will pull the newer package if it exists and you will avoid many > of the heartaches many of us went through. > > urpmi urpmi > > This will get the latest urpmi to make sure things go smoothly > > urpmi kernel > > Now reboot into the new kernel. This will install the newest kernel alongside > your old one. Once you successfully reboot into the new kernel, you can do > the rest all at once with. > > urpmi --auto-select This sounds like what I want. > > This will update any package you have installed. It is possible that some KDE > packages will get missed because all the packages got split out for 9.2 > (things like kmail and kppp come to mind) just add them with > > urpmi <packagename> > > > Through Mandrake Club it is possible to download a set of ISOs with the > > updates already included. Some linux CD suppliers will also sell you for a > > small sum a CD containing the updates And the same length of time to deliver that it would likely take to download the updates. > > http://www.linux-emporium.co.uk/products/compilations/#MandrakeUpdate > > > If you are on dial-up, it will still take forever to download these > > > > > Before you can do the updates you need to define an update source. The > > easiest way to do that it to go to http://urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php and This is where getright stands out. It manages the mirrors and if one slips it will switch to another. It selects the mirrors by ping time but dosent keep them that way. > > select an update source for 9.2 > > Tip: The nearest source is not necessarily the fastest > > Tip: The rediris source in Spain is *really* fast > > The web page will give you the text to type into a root terminal. > > Tip: To get a root terminal type su in a normal terminal. > > Tip: To copy paste in Linux highlight with mouse to copy. Press mouse wheel > > to paste. > > > > Do *not* follow the advice on the web page about doing urpmi.removemedia -a > > It will screw up your CD sources if you do. > > > You have to remove the cd sources if you are going to try and download from > the net because urpmi can't deal with duplicate sources for the same package > well. So if you are going to try to update from the net, you must remove the > cd sources. They can always be added back later with the following command: > > urpmi.addmedia --distrib removable://mnt/cdrom > Sounds resonable. Thank you for your input and any futher comments will be welcome, in particular if you could respond to my comments it would be helpful. Regards; Hoyt
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