On Saturday 14 February 2004 05:34 am, Margot wrote:
> Charlie wrote:
> > On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 07:09 am, robin wrote:
> >>Margot wrote:
> >>>robin wrote:
> >>>>Margot wrote:
> >>>>>I must have done something really stupid, but I don't know what...!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Up until a couple of weeks ago, I used to be able to click on the
> >>>>>Logout button, get a choice of 3 options (Login as different user;
> >>>>>Turn off computer; Restart computer) select 'Turn off computer', and
> >>>>>everything would gradually shut down and eventually the power would
> >>>>>switch off.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>This doesn't happen any more! When I select 'Turn off computer' I get
> >>>>>a black screen with a white mouse pointer arrow in the middle,
> >>>>>keyboard and mouse don't work, and nothing shuts down - I have to
> >>>>>switch off the power switch button. When I switch on next day, system
> >>>>>complains that it has shut down 'uncleanly'.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Only way I've found to get a clean shutdown now is to open a
> >>>>>terminal, su to root (doesn't work as user!), and do 'shutdown -h -t
> >>>>>10 now'.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>What have I done? How do I fix it?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Seems ridiculous that I have to be root to shut down the computer! Is
> >>>>>this some sort of permissions problem?
> >>>>
> >>>>Only allowing root to be able to shut down the computer goes way back
> >>>>to the early days of Unix, where you didn't want ordinary users to be
> >>>>able to shut down or reboot terminals. Consequently, AFAIK it is still
> >>>>the default on Unix-type systems.
> >>>>
> >>>>Make sure that auto-login is off in MCC, then enable it in KDE (System
> >>>>-> Login Manager, and click Administrator Mode). That might do the
> >>>>trick.  Occasionally some other system change will reset it, which
> >>>>might be the cause of your problem (for example, I had to go back and
> >>>>put in the settings I wanted after updating KDE).
> >>>>
> >>>>Sir Robin
> >>>
> >>>Thanks for the suggestion Robin. Unfortunately I don't have a 'Login
> >>>Manager' option on the System section (or anywhere else) on my KDE menu.
> >>>Can you (or some other kind person) tell me what the package is called,
> >>>so I can call it up from a terminal?
> >>
> >>Don't go through the menu, go to the KDE Control Center (which normally
> >>appears on the menu as "Configure your desktop"). Sorry, I should have
> >>made that clear.
> >>
> >>Sir Robin
> >
> > or in a terminal type kcontrol for the KDE control centre or MCC for
> > Mandrake control centre.
> >
> > Charlie.
>
> Well I found it, and shutdown is currently set to be allowed by
> "Everybody" - trouble is, "Everybody" doesn't seem to include *me* at
> the moment...I feel like some sort of outcast... :-(
I had that trouble in XCDroast had to add group aron and group sandbox to get 
it to work
>
> Margot


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