On Thursday 19 Feb 2004 20:44, Steve Kaufman wrote: > Below is my original post I had posted back to the list that it was fixed > but it is not and I don't have any idea where to go. I would really like to > use Linux but if I can't keep it up (alright no one say it is a personal > problem) IT DOESN'T DO ME MUCH GOOD. > > What I have done was to add the acpi=off to the append line it was > acpi=ht then I rebooted again after doing /sbin/lilo/. The machine then > stayed up for over 18hrs but I only had the desktop open with no > application running. I am going to try that again and see if it stays up. > It's kind of hard to just let it sit there and not do anything. It seems > like it might not be power management because it has locked up while I was > using it and not just after setting doing nothing but last night at was > after I left the room to eat dinner. > > I have also checked all logs from Configure you machine/logs in MCC and > there is absolutly nothing that would indicate a problem. > > I also posted a ps -A and someone verified that there were no ACPI > processes running. > > Don't know where else to look. > > Steve > Linux user number 344404 > -------Original Message------- > > From: Steve Kaufman > Date: 02/17/04 15:46:20 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: PC locks up solid. Power off buton won't even work > > Help please, > > This is going to be a real challange. I have installed MD9,2 a couple of > weeks ago. Some of the people on this list have been very wonderfull in > helping me to overcome some very simple but perplexing problems for a > newbie > > > This problem does not happen in windows. I can leave my machine up for days > with no problems. > > Here's todays problem and it is a big one that if I can't fix I may have to > stop using LInux. Intermittently (almost every day) if I leave my pc sit > inactive for some period of time it will just lockup to where I can not > even power off the pc with the power button. I have to turn off at the > surge protector. > > I have tried to isolate this to an application and have been unable to. The > only time it does not seem to happen is when I have no applications open on > my desktop. As long as the cursor is resting on the desktop not in an > application then the pc does not seem to lock up. > > The only application that I have installed other than the defaut ones that > come with the 9.2 install is Thunderbird but I have also tried not running > Thunderbird after a boot to see what would happen and it still locks up. > The only applications I have really been using are. MCC functions for > updates and trying to make sure my hardware is configured correctly. I read > email both with Thunderbird and Kmail. Web browsing with Konqour. > > What I have done to attempt to isolate the problem. > - I have disabled all power management in the bios and in MD (from MCC) > - I have tried leaving various applications open or closed and I can not > find a pattern. > - I have installed all updates. > - I have looked in logs but don't see anything when it hangs. The logs I > look at are the ones which can be seen in MCC. > > My hardware: > * System Summary * > ******************** > Motherboard - ASUS - A7N8X - Delux version 2.0 > Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2700+ 2.0 GHz (2500+ overclocked > I have run in at 2500 and still happens. > I have had it at 2700 in windows forever > and no problems) > BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG Phoenix-Award BIOS v6 > 00PG, 05/14/03 > Bus Type: PCI, ISA, USB > Ports: 1 Parallel, 2 Serial > Memory: 512 MB (42% Utilized) GEIL 400MHZ PC3200 > Floppy Disks: 1.44 MB > Hard Disks: 16.95 GB, 16.95 GB, 114.50 GB, 12.66 GB > Multimedia: Sound, CD-ROM > Video: 800 x 600 in 64K Colors, NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 > Ver. 6.14 128meg > LAN 3Com 3C920B-EMB Integrated Fast Ethernet Controller > NVIDIA nForce MCP Networking Controller > < Operating System > > Windows: 5.0 (Build 2195) > > < IBM Enhanced (101- or 102-key) keyboard > > > < MICROSOFT PS2 MOUSE > > > < Drive C > WINDOWS drive MAXTOR > Total space in drive: 122,934,034,432 bytes (114.49 GB) > Used space: 14,998,540,288 bytes (13.97 GB) > Available space: 107,935,494,144 bytes (100.52 GB) > > < Volume Information > > File System: NTFS > > D = LITEON 52x32x52 CD-RW > > E= LINUX drive WDC, 13GB I think. Windows has no idea what's on here. > > < Drive F > Compaq SCSI - BB01821AC3 > Total space in drive: 18,202,509,312 bytes (16.95 GB) > Used space: 11,992,743,936 bytes (11.17 GB) > Available space: 6,209,765,376 bytes (5.78 GB) > > < Volume Information > > File System: NTFS > > < Drive G > COMPAQ SCSI - BB018222CA > Total space in drive: 18,158,800,896 bytes (16.91 GB) > Used space: 6,830,092,288 bytes (6.36 GB) > Available space: 11,328,708,608 bytes (10.55 GB) > > < Volume Information > > File System: FAT32 > > Drive H = CD-R 48x > > Any help would be appreciated. > What info would be helpful from LINUX? > > > Steve > Linux user number 344404
Steve Whenever anyone complains of lockups like you describe, the most common cause has usually been found to be memory. Now I know you will say it works perfectly in Windows, but the fact is Linux uses memory differently to Windows. Whereas Windows only uses as much memory as the active applications need, Linux will use *all* the available memory as a hard disc cache, so problems in the upper reaches of memory will show up much more on Linux. If you install the memtest86 RPM you will find on rebooting there is a new entry in your Lilo boot screen. Select it, and it will immediately run a continuous memory test. You should be able to run that test all night long without a single error. Any failures, then start looking at your Bios settings. HTH derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org
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