On Friday 23 July 2004 22:44, Jeff Reid wrote: > Okay, I formatted the Linux partitions, and did a fresh reinstall. I > have the SAME PROBLEM. > > I have given up on trying to get Mandrake to work with my DSL modem. > It simply will not do so. I have a Linksys (Network Everywhere NR041) > router that I wasn't using, but I have now installed it. I can get > online with it just fine in Windows, but NOT in Linux. Every time I > try to configure the network in Linux, the program crashes. I forgot > to mention it earlier (sorry, because I know that was an important > detail), but this has always been the case. > > I tried setting up the network as a "LAN" connection, and it asked me > if I wanted DHCP or manual, I think it was. I chose DHCP and got > asked for information that I don't have, such as a host name. I have > no idea. All I know is that I have SBC Yahoo! DSL that works > flawlessly in Windows and not at all in Linux. > > I left this project alone for a while because I got frustrated with > it. This should be simple, but it's not. I'm almost ready to give up > on Mandrake completely if it won't even connect to the Net on my > machine and either try another distribution after I take some time > away from this again or just put the "I think I'll try Linux because > I've heard great things about it and I'm curious" project on the > backburner again indefinitely. > > My frustration isn't, of course, directed towards anyone on the list. > Everyone has been very helpful, and I really sincerely appreciate it. > I just wish I could get this to work! Aaaaarrgggghhh!!! > > BTW, my NIC is being identified as a Realtek 8139 (I think that > number is correct). Is that actually supported hardware in Linux? > > Thanks, > Jeff > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hoyt Bailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 6:07 PM > Subject: Re: [newbie] Getting online with DSL modem > > > On Friday 23 July 2004 17:49, Jeff Reid wrote: > > > Sorry for the long silence. I have been following the messages in > > > this group with interest, but I took a break from trying to get > > > Linux to work. I'm interested in trying the OS and have been for > > > quite a while, but I dread the learning curve. I have a love/hate > > > relationship with Windows. I love it for its ease of use, and I > > > don't think Linux can compete well in that area yet, but I could > > > be wrong. It may just be an issue of familiarity. I don't often > > > have to think about how to do something in Windows. I just do it. > > > It's second nature after 14 years. On the other hand, I HATE > > > Windows for its instability, flakiness, lack of security, etc. > > > and I have the grey hairs to prove it! :-) > > > > > > Anyway, I ran that "cat" command, and this is what's in that > > > configuration file: > > > > > > DEVICE=eth0 > > > BOOTPROTO=dhcp > > > BROADCAST=151.164.1.255 > > > ONBOOT=yes > > > MII_NOT_SUPPORTED=yes > > > WIRELESS_ENC_KEY="" > > > > > > I ran the tail command, and got this: > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] jeff]# tail /var/log/messages > > > Jul 23 17:11:34 localhost kernel: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit > > > timed out Jul 23 17:11:34 localhost kernel: eth0: link up, > > > 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0x41E1 > > > Jul 23 17:11:37 localhost dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to > > > 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 18 > > > Jul 23 17:11:55 localhost dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to > > > 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 16 > > > Jul 23 17:12:11 localhost dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to > > > 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 3 > > > Jul 23 17:12:14 localhost dhclient: No DHCPOFFERS received. > > > Jul 23 17:12:14 localhost ifup: failed. > > > Jul 23 17:12:14 localhost network: Bringing up interface eth0: > > > failed Jul 23 17:12:22 localhost kernel: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: > > > transmit timed out Jul 23 17:12:22 localhost kernel: eth0: link > > > up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0x41E1 > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] jeff]# > > > > > > Any idea what's wrong with my setup? > > > > > > I'm beginning to wonder if I just have a bad Mandrake install. I > > > booted the system up into Linux, left the room for a few minutes > > > to go take care of something else, and when I came back, my > > > computer had locked up, something it NEVER does in Windows, so it > > > has to be a software issue, I would think. > > > > > > BTW, I tried vi and emacs, and was lost, although I'm sure both > > > are great programs once you know how to use them. I then tried > > > gedit, and was greeted with a reasonably familiar interface that > > > I could use right away without having to think too much about how > > > to do what I needed to do. Again, the familiarity issue. Familiar > > > is GOOD. :-) > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Justin Grote" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "Jeff Reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 11:54 PM > > > Subject: Re[4]: [newbie] Getting online with DSL modem > > > > > > > > > JR> Okay, I have the network card set to DHCP. I have the IP > > > addresses that I > > > JR> got from SBC entered in to the ADSL connection screen. The > > > network card is > > > JR> not finding an IP address via DHCP. I'm also getting an error > > > that says JR> something like, "SIOCDELRT not found". I don't > > > think those are the actual > > > JR> words to the error message, but the general idea. What is > > > SIOCDELRT? > > > > > > JR> I tried going to 192.168.0.1, but I got a "connection > > > refused" error in JR> Mozilla. > > > > > > JR> Thanks, > > > JR> Jeff > > > > > > JR> ----- Original Message ----- > > > JR> From: "Jeff Reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > JR> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > JR> Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 8:51 PM > > > JR> Subject: Re: Re[2]: [newbie] Getting online with DSL modem > > > > > > >> Is it necessary to specify IP addresses anywhere at all? > > > >> > > > >> I'm not sucessfully online in Linux yet. Don't know what I'm > > > >> missing. > > > >> > > > >> Thanks, > > > >> Jeff > > > >> > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > > >> From: "Justin Grote" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >> To: "Jeff Reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >> Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 7:40 PM > > > >> Subject: Re[2]: [newbie] Getting online with DSL modem > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> JR> Hey Justin, > > > >> > > > >> JR> They use PPoE. Do I have to give the network card an IP or > > > >> anything > > > > > > at > > > > > > >> all? > > > >> JR> I have been specifying PPoE when setting up the internet > > > >> connection. Right > > > >> JR> now, the network card is set for "static" with an IP > > > >> address > > > > > > JR> specified - > > > > > > >> the > > > >> JR> primary IP that SBC gave me. > > > >> > > > >> JR> I apologize in advance for any stupid questions. This is > > > >> very new to > > > > > > JR> me. > > > > > > >> JR> Thanks, > > > >> JR> Jeff > > > >> > > > >> JR> P.S. Also, I apologize for posting my message in HTML. > > > >> Ooops! > > > >> > > > >> JR> ----- Original Message ----- > > > >> JR> From: "Justin Grote" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >> JR> To: "Jeff Reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >> JR> Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 7:20 PM > > > >> JR> Subject: Re: [newbie] Getting online with DSL modem > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> JR>> Hello, > > > >> JR>> > > > >> JR>> I downloaded Mandrake 10 recently, and it works fine > > > >> except JR>> for sound issues and an inability to get on the > > > >> Net with it. My JR>> primary concern right now is getting > > > >> online. > > > >> JR>> > > > >> JR>> I have SBC Yahoo! DSL, and I am using a Speedstream 5100 > > > >> JR>> modem. What do my settings need to be in the Network > > > >> setup? I have JR>> the IP addresses that SBC gave me, but they > > > >> made it clear that JR>> they do not support Linux. > > > >> JR>> > > > >> JR>> I assigned the primary IP address to my NIC, so it no > > > >> longer JR>> complains about not being about to find an IP, but > > > >> there does JR>> appear to be a program missing at boot that > > > >> has to do with the JR>> Internet connection. I do recall a > > > >> notice that the download JR>> version may not work with some > > > >> DSL modems due to not having JR>> commercial software included > > > >> with it. Is this the issue I am JR>> having, and is it > > > >> possible to get online with the free download JR>> version > > > >> over a DSL connection? > > > >> JR>> > > > >> JR>> Thanks very much, > > > >> JR>> Jeff > > > >> JR>> > > > >> > > > >> JR> Does your ISP use PPoE or PPoA (Point-To-Point over > > > >> Ethernet/ATM)? > > > > > > JR> Many > > > > > > >> DSL > > > >> JR> providers do, in which case you'll have to set up your DSL > > > >> modem for PPoE > > > >> JR> (DrakConnect should make this easy). > > > >> > > > >> JR> A Google Groups post: > > > >> JR> > > > > > > JR> > > > http://groups.google.com/groups?q=mandrake+speedstream+5100+suppo > > >rt&h > > > l=en&lr=lang_en&ie=UTF-8&selm=jK-dnc4Z2flGHrbdRVn-tw%40giganews.c > > >om&rn um=1 > > > > > > >> JR> mentions that the hardware should work "out of the box", > > > >> so the issue JR> regarding DSL modem interoperability > > > >> shouldn't be a problem. I'll bet that > > > >> JR> you have it set up for plain ol' ethernet and DHCP and the > > > >> ISP > > > > > > JR> requires > > > > > > >> JR> either PPoE or PPoA. > > > >> > > > >> JR> Again, drakconnect should make this real easy. > > > >> > > > >> JR> ______________________________ > > > >> JR> Justin Grote > > > >> JR> Network Architect, CCNA > > > >> JR> The Whistlepunk > > > >> JR> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove nospam-) > > > >> JR> SMS: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove nospam-) > > > >> JR> Phone: (208) 631-5440 > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> This DSLReports FAQ should help if you lost the instructions: > > > >> > > > >> http://www.dslreports.com/faq/8720 > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> ______________________________ > > > >> Justin Grote > > > >> Network Architect, CCNA > > > >> The Whistlepunk > > > >> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove nospam-) > > > >> SMS: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove nospam-) > > > >> Phone: (208) 631-5440 > > > > > > JR> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > >---- --- ---- > > > JR> ---- > > > > > > >> ____________________________________________________ > > > >> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > > >> Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > >> Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com > > > >> ____________________________________________________ > > > > > > Just got back from the John Fogerty concert up at Brundage > > > Mountain in McCall, Idaho. Great concert on a gorgeous mountain > > > with a *rainbow* in the sky. Kick ass. Sorry your day isn't as > > > good as mine > > > > > > :) > > > > > > Anyhow, that SIOCDELRT usually means a configuration problem in > > > my experience (SIOC are calls to the TCP/IP stack, SIOC = stack > > > in/out calls, DELRT = delete route). It means you tried to delete > > > a route that doesn't exist. > > > > > > Here's a quick way to check if everything is OK. > > > > > > Open up a terminal (the command line is your friend), and type: > > > > > > cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 (or open the file > > > in your favorite text editor) > > > > > > This command will show you what is inside the ifcfg-eth0 file. > > > This file is where your network settings for your ethernet card > > > are. Make sure there is a line in there that says: > > > > > > BOOTPROTO=DHCP > > > > > > If not, open the file in your favorite text editor (vi, emacs, > > > nano, gedit, etc.) and put it in there. > > > > > > Open up another terminal (or hit CTRL-C to stop the "less" > > > program), become root by typing: > > > > > > su > > > > > > and your root password. then type: > > > > > > service network restart > > > > > > You should see messages similar to this: > > > > > > shutting down eth0 [ ok ] > > > starting eth0 [ ok ] > > > > > > If your eth0 doesn't come up (says [ FAILED ]), type this at the > > > console (while still as root): > > > > > > tail /var/log/messages > > > > > > Copy the messages in there and email it to the list and we can > > > probably find your exact problem. > > > > > > Not a good first impression of Mandrake is it? I've rarely seen > > > this problem on a default install, you're just lucky :). > > > > > > > > > ______________________________ > > > Justin Grote > > > Network Architect, CCNA > > > The Whistlepunk > > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove nospam-) > > > SMS: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove nospam-) > > > Phone: (208) 631-5440 > > > > You may have a bad install. I am a newbie without the 14 years > > experience. Its pretty obvious your eth0 is misconfigured but then > > I never got 9.2 running satsfactorly and when I installed 10.0 I > > dropped windows. Someone will be along that can help you shortely > > and I predict that after 14 weeks you will be ready to give up > > windows. > > -- > > Regards; > > Hoyt > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >------- ---- > > > ____________________________________________________ > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com > > ____________________________________________________ See my post to Chris I think it might solve your problem. -- Regards; Hoyt
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