--- David Cormier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Wow, $170 paid for endless thousands of dollars of
> equivalent software,
> friendly support (evidence below) and admission into
> what in any other
> conceivable discipline would be a select group of
> longtimers who would
> not have the slightest thing to do with you. You
> offer them $170 bucks
> (I say offer, because you could have gotten it free)
> for untold
> thousands of hours of work (figure a dream people
> have been working on
> for 20 years) , and you can't get it figured out in
> WEEKS!!!, so you
> lash out at those very same people kind enough to
> accept you.
>
> I understand your frustration, I'm 2 months in,
> unsure if I'm with the
> right distribution, confused about a hundred things,
> and I have a silver
> membership. I still use my other boot up (I'm on it
> now, I needed a work
> document printed out in exact msword format), and
> have faded in my all
> out enthusiasm for MDK. But here it is, right here,
> all these people are
> willing to reply to you after you've insulted them.
> That's the
> difference. Any amount of research would have told
> you that the
> membership was flawed... but it's flawed because
> they don't have the
> money. True, and some of that lack comes from a lack
> of what we are
> accustomed to calling professionalism.
>
> Walk on to an American football field. Ask them if
> you can play, they'll
> 'say' no. (If you're lucky they'll be polite) You're
> place is in the
> stands. It's a multimillion dollar industry with
> access only to a
> priveledged few. Walk onto a rugby pitch, people
> will greet you, ask if
> you'd like to practice, talk to you about the game.
> It's an odd game,
> takes a while to adjust to. But you get to be
> involved, if you want, at
> just about any level you like.
>
> There is a difference. Performance in some ways yes.
> Software all over
> the place. But at the end of the day, people like
> Anne (whom I've never
> even read before) are the reason I'm going to stick
> it out.
>
> dave.
>
> Anne Wilson wrote:
>
> >On Thursday 11 Nov 2004 22:54, Jack wrote:
> >
> >
> >>1 - It never did "see" my Canon D760
> copier/printer.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >Canon gear is always hard, as they will not
> cooperate in releasing api
> >details. However, it is sometimes possible to get
> things to work. Did you
> >ask any specific questions about this?
> >
> >
> >
> >>2 - Couldn't get my nvidia video capture to work,
> despite help from
> >>experts like Anne Wilson.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >I'm not an expert - just someone who tries to help.
> I'm especially not an
> >expert on nvidia - my one and only nvidia card
> disappoints me.
> >
> >
> >
> >>3 - Couldn't upgrade to KDE 3.3, despite having
> the CD for it and
> >>despite help from experts like Randall. I spent
> *weeks* on this.
> >>Nothing I tried worked, nor did any suggestions
> work.
I've done it in 15 minutes being really *DUMB*
newbie... Install first the kdearts package (and one
dependency) and all the rest after. (Because kdearts
for KDE 3.2 was not in the distro first time...)
BUT KDE 3.3 is not tested throughfully, so you may
have many problems. Just stay .1-.2 versions back when
you've got a stable installation if you're not
prepared to tweak MDK. Learn first then react!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >This is not a task for a newbie.
> >
> >
> >
> >>4 - I use voice recognition extensively (Dragon NS
> and IBM ViaVoice). I
> >>don't believe this even exists for Linux.
> >>
> >>5 - Most damning of all was my attempted upgrade
> to 10.1 official. I
> >>completely wiped my drive to do a clean install,
> and after everything
> >>was said and done, the official version could not
> find the internet
the Internet thing could be resolved. Look for that on
cooker mailing list:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker
, nor
> >>my onboard (Asus P4P800) sound card.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >You probably didn't check all the Configuration
> options late in the install.
> >There is no reason why those could not have been
> persuaded to work.
> >
> >
> >
> >>10.0 had no trouble finding these 2, nor did the
> community version of
> >>10.1. Luckily for me, I had imaged the drive
> beforehand, so I was able
> >>to go back to 10.1 community.
> >>
> >>6 - I spent the $170 or so bucks to become a
> silver club member, but not
> >>once have I received an answer from Mandrake when
> I found myself stuck.
They are not for you only. I am not a club member (it
is very complicated in my country to pay via
banks...),
but there were always somebody able to answer me.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >What questions did you ask, and where?
> >
> >
> >
> >>I see great potential in Linux and I will maintain
> my dual-boot system,
> >>slowly learning to survive in Linux while waiting
> (and hoping) for the
> >>operating system to mature to a more usable
> state...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >I may sound harsh, Jack, but you have to realised
> that
> >a) you're a newbie, and don't know enough to make
> things easy
> >b) you've chosen a bleeding edge distro, so
> somethings have to be tweaked
> >until things work correctly
> >c) you're ambitious (good thing) and try things
> that you're not ready for
> >(good, but risky)
> >
> >Anne
> >
> >
>
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