On Wednesday 12 January 2005 12:20 am, SnapafunFrank wrote: > Kaj Haulrich wrote: > >On Tuesday 11 January 2005 19:44, Brett Lyon wrote: > >>After a recent routine update (urpmi.update -a;urpmi > >>--auto-select), I get this when calling K3B (from > >>anywhere): > >> > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] brett]# k3b > >>k3b: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libartskde.so.1: > >>undefined symbol: > >>_ZTv0_n28_N4Arts16SynthModule_stub11autoSuspendEv > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] brett]# > >> > >>Before the (blind) upgrade, K3B had been running great > >>for months. > >> > >>When I trace back all the packages that ultimately > >>provide libartskde.so I find that a)they are all so > >>embedded in the core of KDE that an upgrade would be a > >>hefty undertaking and that b)now neither URPMI nor > >>drakconf work for any kind of directly KDE-related > >>(only) upgrade anyway (they both hang immediately), so > >>it would be a lot of plain old rpming or making. Can > >>anybody suggest a way to begin troubleshooting this? > >>/var/log/messages, urpmi, (etc.) shows nothing > >>significant. > >> > >>system info: > >>MDK 10.1 OE, 2.6.8.1-12mdk, P4 2.66GHz, 512MB > >>KDE 3.2.3 > >> > >>I tried: > >> > >> libk3b2-0.11.18-1.mdk10.1.thac > >> k3b-0.11.18-1.mdk10.1.thac > >> > >>and: > >> > >> k3b-0.11.16-3mdk > >> libk3b2-0.11.16-3mdk > >> > >>Other wierd things are happening too, like my konsole > >>schema is gone, kicker crashes, xtraceroute hangs, > >>etc. kde + urpmi = big mess. How can a "proficient" > >>beginner avoid these non-productive time-wasters while > >>staying updated? > >> > >>Thanks for any tips, > >>brett > > > >Strange. I just upgraded 161 MB worth of KDE and xscreensaver > >coming up today, but my k3b works OK. I noticed your command > > : urpmi.update -a;urpmi --auto-select ^ a space is needed here urpmi.update -a; urpmi --auto-select
> >and this semicolon shouldn't be there. Instead it is : > >urpmi.update -a && urpmi --auto-select The difference between using ';' or '&&' is that the double ampersand says to the system, 'run this next command only if the previous one is successful.' Use of ';' doesn't use this precaution. Obviously '&&' should normally be preferred when the subsequent command(s) relies on the prior one(s). > >My suggestion : try again if your update is older than one > > day. You might be able to get all the new stuff as of today. > > > >HTH > > > >Kaj Haulrich. > > Not sure, but it sounds like you tried to update with kde > running. I tried this once and ended up reinstalling from > scratch. Did the update one step at a time in the order > required for kde with xserver closed down and have had no > problems since. As I said - not sure if this is your problem or > not. I run cooker. I update KDE almost daily, sometimes several times a day. Always with KDE and X running. In the past I've updated 'final' or 'community' or 'official' Mandrake versions, always from within KDE. I have no idea who or when this fallacious advice originated, ie, "logout from KDE and/or X to update". It simply isn't so. This isn't Win$ux folks. What _is_ often needed is to update the system after the updates are installed, eg, I use an alias (as root), 'upall' alias upall='rpm --rebuilddb && updatedb && ldconfig -v && update-menus -v -n' Then log out and back into KDE to fully realize the updates. It's a good idea to use <Ctrl+Alt+BkSp> while logged out to restart the X server. Specially if updates were to X. If you're setup to auto-login to KDE, this step will auto log you back into KDE. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American
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