Tom Brinkman wrote:
On Wednesday 12 January 2005 12:20 am, SnapafunFrank wrote:I do not doubt anything you have said here, and in fact I strive for the day when this is works fully for a dumb arse like me. It is just that when I update kde from rpm packages FULLY, I have yet to succeed with a successful installation without first logging out of X session.
Kaj Haulrich wrote:
On Tuesday 11 January 2005 19:44, Brett Lyon wrote:
Strange. I just upgraded 161 MB worth of KDE and xscreensaverAfter a recent routine update (urpmi.update -a;urpmi --auto-select), I get this when calling K3B (from anywhere):
[EMAIL PROTECTED] brett]# k3b k3b: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libartskde.so.1: undefined symbol: _ZTv0_n28_N4Arts16SynthModule_stub11autoSuspendEv [EMAIL PROTECTED] brett]#
Before the (blind) upgrade, K3B had been running great for months.
When I trace back all the packages that ultimately provide libartskde.so I find that a)they are all so embedded in the core of KDE that an upgrade would be a hefty undertaking and that b)now neither URPMI nor drakconf work for any kind of directly KDE-related (only) upgrade anyway (they both hang immediately), so it would be a lot of plain old rpming or making. Can anybody suggest a way to begin troubleshooting this? /var/log/messages, urpmi, (etc.) shows nothing significant.
system info: MDK 10.1 OE, 2.6.8.1-12mdk, P4 2.66GHz, 512MB KDE 3.2.3
I tried:
libk3b2-0.11.18-1.mdk10.1.thac k3b-0.11.18-1.mdk10.1.thac
and:
k3b-0.11.16-3mdk libk3b2-0.11.16-3mdk
Other wierd things are happening too, like my konsole schema is gone, kicker crashes, xtraceroute hangs, etc. kde + urpmi = big mess. How can a "proficient" beginner avoid these non-productive time-wasters while staying updated?
Thanks for any tips,
brett
coming up today, but my k3b works OK. I noticed your command
: urpmi.update -a;urpmi --auto-select
^ a space is needed here urpmi.update -a; urpmi --auto-select
and this semicolon shouldn't be there. Instead it is :
urpmi.update -a && urpmi --auto-select
The difference between using ';' or '&&' is that the double ampersand says to the system, 'run this next command only if the previous one is successful.' Use of ';' doesn't use this precaution. Obviously '&&' should normally be preferred when the subsequent command(s) relies on the prior one(s).
Not sure, but it sounds like you tried to update with kdeMy suggestion : try again if your update is older than one day. You might be able to get all the new stuff as of today.
HTH
Kaj Haulrich.
running. I tried this once and ended up reinstalling from
scratch. Did the update one step at a time in the order
required for kde with xserver closed down and have had no
problems since. As I said - not sure if this is your problem or
not.
I run cooker. I update KDE almost daily, sometimes several times a day. Always with KDE and X running. In the past I've updated 'final' or 'community' or 'official' Mandrake versions, always from within KDE. I have no idea who or when this fallacious advice originated, ie, "logout from KDE and/or X to update". It simply isn't so.
This isn't Win$ux folks. What _is_ often needed is to update the system after the updates are installed, eg, I use an alias (as root), 'upall'
alias upall='rpm --rebuilddb && updatedb && ldconfig -v && update-menus -v -n'
Then log out and back into KDE to fully realize the updates. It's a good idea to use <Ctrl+Alt+BkSp> while logged out to restart the X server. Specially if updates were to X. If you're setup to auto-login to KDE, this step will auto log you back into KDE.
AGAIN. I do not doubt you, it may well be that within text console, I have to be more observant and careful, therefore suceed this way. Time will tell I hope because I am through with playing with Linux, I now need to keep this box stable and in production for myself. Oh... I forgot, what is Windows again??
-- Newbie Seeking USER_FUNCTIONALITY always!
Regards
SnapafunFrank
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