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From: JR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Subject: Re: [newbie] Playing god with friends new laptop (Moral question)
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 16:28:46 -0500

> 
> On Saturday 22 January 2005 11:15 am, Angus Auld wrote:
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: JR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
> > Subject: Re: [newbie] Playing god with friends new laptop (Moral question)
> > Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:42:12 -0500
> >
> > > On Saturday 22 January 2005 09:38 am, Duncan Anderson wrote:
> > > > There should be no problem. The lady in question is a "computer
> > > > newbie". She will most likely want to use email and word-processing
> > > > initially, so there should be absolutely no issue, since all such
> > > > programs are standard on Mandrake at no extra charge.
> > > >
> > > > Most importantly, she will not have to bother with the time-wasting and
> > > > expensive activities which surround Windows in its capacity of virus
> > > > magnet. How any newbie copes with the whole vicious circle of
> > > > infection, re-installation, protection, updates, etc., defeats me.
> > >
> > > I agree here whole heartedly. I dont know how to teach her about updates,
> > > when to turn on and off autoprotect etc.
> > >
> > > > I have installed Mandrake on several senior citizens' computers and
> > > > generally a bit of help is required every now and then, but it is
> > > > normally sorted out over the phone, or for a few minutes, accompanied
> > > > by a cup of tea and a chat.
> > > >
> > > > There is also no problem getting Mandrake to see wireless networks. We
> > > > don't have such luxuries where I live, but when I was in Europe on
> > > > holiday, I had no trouble connecting to the hotels' access points with
> > > > Mandrake 10.1beta2 (at the time, August last year). I was using an
> > > > Orinoco PCMCIA card. Unfortunately the ADSL infrastructure does not
> > > > exist yet in our beautiful seaside village. I believe it is due in
> > > > 2006.
> > > >
> > > > cheers
> > > > Duncan
> > >
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > > I think what I'll do is make her windows environment as linux-like as
> > > possiblel firefox, thunderbird and so forth. Then I'll install linux (she
> > > has plenty of disk space) and show her how easy it is. She will always
> > > have the choice - but she will surely find linux easier. I dread going
> > > near her laptop with windows on it and it's brand new! What a shame.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Jarlath
> >
> > ********************************************
> > As far as wireless goes, it definitely depends on what sort of wireless nic
> > you have. I have a Dell Inspiron with a Broadcom wireless card, and I came
> > just sort of smashing it to bits out of utter and complete frustration
> > trying to get that thing to connect under Mandrake 10.1. 8>| The Broadcom
> > ethernet card on the other hand, was a snap to set up. I tried both
> > "ndiswrapper" and Linuxants "driverloader" with the wireless.....no joy in
> > Mudville at all.
> >
> > I agree with your decisions to use as few MS programs as possible, and to
> > set her up a dual-boot. Dual-booting is what I had to settle with, and now
> > I can go wireless if need be, albeit with MS, and I can stick with my
> > beloved Mandrake most of the time by plugging in to the internet. My
> > decision to buy this Dell, with it's linux un-friendly Broadcom wireless
> > card, is just one of those little learning experiences that comes along
> > once in a while. ;-) "Too soon old and too late smart" comes to mind.
> >
> > Best regards to you.
> > --Angus
> Thanks Angus,
> I managed to get my USR wireless pcmcia card working fine on a dell I4000.
> Linuxant.com allow you to upload the windows driver on your CD, and in return
> they give you a linux driver - if they have it.
> 
> Finally, configuration was a nightmare at first, but this guy sorted out
> everything in a few posts.
> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=260990&highlight=final+step+wifi
> 
> Regards,
> Jarlath
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Thanks right back at you for posting that link. ;-)
When I get my courage up, I will probably try the wireless thing under linux 
again.

Regards.

--Angus

"Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around 
in awareness." -- James Thurber

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~Reg. Linux User #278931~
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