I added the windows ttf fonts line to the /etc/X11/fs/config file, and ran all of the other instructions on the mandrakeuser.org page, and xfs crashes when I try to reload it. I only just did this since until now, I was using xfstt, because I upgraded from Mandrake 5.3 with no truetype fonts to 6.0, and then to 6.1. I found out yesterday that xfstt was causing X to die on running wine, so I changed the config to use xfs only, with ttfs. As soon as I take out the path where the windows fonts are from the /etc/X11/fs/config, xfs starts fine. -- *===================================================* | Andrew Mitchell | | Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Home Page http://members.tripod.com/Ajmitchell/ | | ICQ 11392490 (ajmitch) | *===================================================*