why do things crash? hmmmmm
> -----Original Message-----
> From: George Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 10 April 2000 15:02
> To: newbie
> Subject: Re: [newbie] I thought this was supposed to beat
> Windowshandsdownon stability!!
>
>
> paul haine wrote:
> >
> > Funny how when Windows doesn't work it's Windows fault, but
> when Linux
> > doesn't work it MUST be the hardware.
>
> Not true, look at all of the S3 Savage 3, 4, and 2000 owners
> out there (I
> have a Diamond Stealth s540 Savage4) complaining on a regular
> basis about
> their hardware crashing Windows. To it's credit, the Stealth
> III works
> fine with Linux (no 3d accell though). Many times it is the
> hardware, but
> everyone is so used to blaming Windows that no matter what
> "It has to be
> Windows". AMD's processors 350Mhz+ required a patch in win95
> in order to
> work. Intel had no such problem, Cyrix has no such problem.
> Problem with
> Windows? I doubt it.
this was infact a problem with windows, a timing bug Amd 350Mhz+ were just
too quick for windows,
Cyrix and Intel process obviously wern't ;->
> Windows98SE works for me. It crashes
> only when I try
> something that I shouldn't... Like running OpenGL
> screensavers (Savage4
> drivers don't allow GL accellerated savers to function). Application
> crashes (read:Games!) happen because of instability of my video card.
> Linux never crashes with the same hardware, then again, there's no 3D
> accelleration for the Savage4 to crash it.
this is usually a driver quality issue, which boils down to a few things.
1:- Quality of the driver development kit (windows/Linux etc... me thinks)
2:- 'Protection' given by the kernel and api (windows/Linux again)
3:- build quality of the drivers well this is the oem's responsibility.
4:- reliability of the hardware
5:- driver compatibility, and configuration
windows nt 3.xx had good driver protection, the drivers could crash and the
system would still run. (in theory)
windows nt 4 less protection, bad drivers can kill the server
windows nt 5(2000) similar protection to 95 , ie flaky anything dead
computer.
I'm not sure how Linux handles protection but I've had a fileing system and
a video driver crash the computer has still been running. manly down to bad
configuration.
any how the quality of the final driver usually lies with the oem and not
windows/linux(unless there certified drivers),
but a poor os makes bullet-proofing a driver a near impossibility, and ends
up with massive drivers.
> My overclocked K6-2 450 (@500Mhz) runs everything just fine.
> (So does my
> Overclocked Celeron366 - 550Mhz)
>
> "I have no irrational allegiance to any OS. I use Linux because it
> works,and shun Windows because it doesn't."
>
> But that's irrational in itself. Windows and Linux, as we
> have seen, will
> both crash. Your Hardware configuration may be what's
> preventing you from
> running Windows well. Your not looking into that is
> irrational. Please
> don't take this as a flame, that's not what I'm trying to do
> here. For the
> record the configuration of my main Linux/Windows box is:
>
> Matsonic 6120s Motherboard w/Alladin V chipset
> AMD K6-2 450 @500Mhz
> SB Live Value
> Diamond Stealth III s540
> Linksys PCI nic
> MIDIMan Winman 2x2 MIDI interface
> 128mb Crucial Tech ram.
> Generic USB Card from CompUSA (I shorted out the USB/PS2 ports on the
> mobo)
> Generic USB Mouse
> 3Com Cable Modem.
>
> It runs Windows and Linux quite well.
>
