Kirk/Mike....if I'm reading this correctly you guys are both
trying to connect to other computers in a private lan and also
to connect to the internet via a wide-band connection such as
cable or dsl with a single nic card?
If that is the case with you, then the problem is that you
need a second nic card and need to dedicate one of the nics to
the internet connection and the other to the lan.
If I got the facts wrong, sorry for the intrusion.
Alan
Mike & Tracy Holt wrote:
>
> I don't think I really qualify as a Linux geek yet either... but here's my
> best shot.
> As far as your connection with kppp, it really shouldn't be that difficult.
> One thing I've noticed (and written to this list and the expert list about,
> nobody seemed to want to answer), is that you can either have a lan
> connection, or you can have an internet connection, but not both. I've been
> trying off and on for several months to figure out how to use NFS and such,
> but everytime I get to the point where I can ping another computer from the
> main on my own little network, then I lose the ability to connect to the
> web. Once I remove the network settings from my computer, I'm able to
> connect to the web again. Maybe that would be something you can try. Go
> into linuxconf and remove your other settings (eth0 or whatever) and then go
> back to kppp and run through the setup there. I've bookmarked a page from
> my isp that shows how to get kppp up and running, here it is:
> http://help.jps.net/unsupported/mandrake/
>
> If you have any luck getting both your internet AND your lan connection
> working at the same time, let me know! I'd love to be able to share files
> without having to boot into Windows!
>
> Mike
>
> > OK, I'm not a real Linux geek... yet. I am a Mac user, and have been
> > successfully using Macs for more than ten years, without any major
> > problems. But for professional reasons, I wanted to get into Linux, and
> > chose Mandrake because it was supposed to be the simplest to get running.
> >
> >
> > <rant>
> > I see no need to have to edit files with cryptic commands when there are
> > GUI interfaces that do the same thing. So, to connect my computer to the
> > Internet, I tried to use Kppp. I am amazed that it does not work, and
> > that the only way to get it to work seems to be to read a ton of Linux
> > books and docs.
> >
> > So, here's what happened. First, following the instructions given in
> > some bacis Linux books, and the Mandrake doc (as well as doc on web
> > sites), I entered the necessary info in Kppp - account info, such as
> > phone number, user name, password, etc. I tried to connect. Zip.
> > Computer tells me
> >
> > >May 3 14:22:52 localhost pppd[917]: The remote system is required to
> > >authenticate itself but I couldn't find any secret (password) which would
> > >let it use an IP address.
> >
> > OK, this is wonderful. All the doc says it is so easy... Some kind
> > souls tell me that I need to add the "noauth" argument. OK, why do I
> > need to do this? I mean, why does it default to auth?
> >
> > But when I try to do this, Computer tells me that I can only do it as
> > root. Now, all the docs and books say, don't use root unless you really
> > need to. But if I can't connect to the Internet as a normal user, I need
> > to be root. So I log in as root, and "noauth" and get the connection up.
> > The connection, and nothing more.
> >
> > In spite of the fact that I have my ISPs DNS numbers correctly entered,
> > nothing happens. Computer is searching in the ether and cannot find any
> > nameservers. I try, on the advice of a kind soul on this list, to
> > uncomment the lines in the resolv.conf file, to no avail.
> >
> > So, still no connection.
> >
> > What gives? If everyone else can get a connection up, is there something
> > wrong with my installation or my computer? If the books and docs show it
> > is so easy, why I am having so many problems? And this noauth thing -
> > why do I have to add it, when, apparently, no one should need auth except
> > in special cases?
> >
> > I'm a bit taken aback by some of the stuff I need to do to get this up
> > and running. Especially because I have been hired to write tutorials
> > about Mandrake for a web site, and need to explain to others how to do
> > these things. Sure, most things work out ok, but when I see just how
> > complicated it is to get a simple ppp connection, I am really shocked.
> > (BTW, it was actually much easier to get my Linux box networked with my
> > Mac over AppleTalk; definately a power user thing, while a ppp connection
> > is really a basic).
> >
> > </rant>
> >
> > So, can anyone help?
> >
> >
> > Kirk
> >
> >
> > vice versa
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