i've go some page faults etc... in the messages log.. kdm[1152]: server for display :0 terminated unexpectedly: 0 kernel: unable to handel kernel paging request at virtual address 8be44591 kernel: current->tss.cr3 = 0c458000, %cr3 = 0c458000 kernel: *pde = 00000000 kernel: Oops: 0000 kernel: CPU: 0 kernel: EIP: 0010:[d_lookup+124/216] kernel: EFLAGS: 00010282 kernel: eax: 8be44589 ebx: cfa692c0 ecx: 0000001e edx: 56695b7e kernel: esi: 00000000 edi: 40012e30 ebp: cff895e8 esp: cdb37ebc kernel: ss: 0018 ds:0018 es:0018 // wheres fs and a cpu dump? kernel: Process kdmdesktop (pid: 1183, process nr: opps it's locked up compleatly now!!! any clues as to the cause would be greatfully recieved. the only problem even remotly simila i had with mandrake 7.0 was after I had got mess-glx instlled.