I'll answer the one question I can!  I have PM 5.0.  It can see and create
Linux xf2 and swap partitions.  In fact I have used it for that purpose and
then let Linux re-format them because I had mnessed up my partition table
when I let Linux do the whole thing - possibly my fault.  I have not tried
to use PM to resize or move Linux partitions but apparently it can.

Following on your explanation, is the reason to use several partitions only
for ease of backups?  I though I read somewhere that it was to protect apps
when upgrading, but I may have been wrong.  Too much new Linux data in my
poor brain.

>    Remember Linux is not Windows. You control it, it does not control you.
>
Hey, I am an old OS/2 person.  Love Linux but honestly until I learn more,
it still is in the Linux controlling me phase.  Hopefully that will change
soon.

Thanks for the help.


Jeff Malka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Registered Linux user  183185

----- Original Message -----
From: Charles A Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Install partitions help


> Jeff
>    I got tied up yesterday and was not able to get back to you, Sorry.
>
>    You could create a boot partition but there would be nothing to put in
it
> if you are using Grub. I have never used LILO ( in 7.0 it would not
install
> on my sysytem and in 7.1 I went with the default, Grub) so I do not know
if
> it still uses a boot partition.
>    Nearly all the programs you will install in Linux, in part due to
> dependence and trees, need to be installed in specfic directories/folders.
> Unless you know exactly what you are doing it is best not to change these
> locations.
>    When you say "re-install the OS" I take it that you mean re-install in
> the Windows  way. This is not needed and in fact will not work in Linux.
If
> you are having problems with a  program you can delete and re-install the
> package/RPM but as far the OS as a whole is concerned you install it as
> either a New Installation , in which case it wipes you hd, or as an
Upgrade,
> in which case programs/componets for which there are newer versions are
> updated  but any settings or program edits which you have made will not be
> changed.
>
>    I have PM 4.0 which can see but not read my Linux partition so it shows
> just a single Type 85 partition therefore I can make no changes to it
using
> PM. Is this still the case with PM 5.01?
>
>    Remember Linux is not Windows. You control it, it does not control you.
>
>    Charles   :-)
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeff Malka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Linux Newbie Mandrake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 9:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Install partitions help
>
>
> > Hi Charles
> >
> > I did install within the FAT extended partition and as predicted it
messed
> > up the MBR and partition table.  But I was able to fix things. :-)
> >
> > Then I deleted the Linux partitions and shrunk the DOS extended
partition
> > and installed in the free space beyond and that install went fine except
> for
> > the inability to install in pre-created Linux partitions because of
size.
> > It did create the 3 Linux partitions you mentioned.  It would be nice if
> the
> > install manual had somewhere the minimum sizes needed for the different
> > partitions.
> >
> > After I played with the present install (7.1) I will re-install into
> > prepared partitions of the correct sizes.  I do not know much about
Linux
> > yet.  Is there not an advantage to having a separate /boot partition
even
> > with Grub?
> >
> > Also I experimented with installing WordPerfect 8 from a Mandrake 7.0 CD
> (I
> > am running 7.1) and that went effortlessly, except that I do not think
it
> > asked me "where" to install WP.  Shouldn't I be installing commercial
> > software in certain partitions and mount points in case of  re-installs
of
> > the OS?
> >
> > Thanks for your help.  It is much appreciated.
> >
> > Jeff Malka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Registered Linux user  183185
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Charles A Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 8:33 AM
> > Subject: Re: [newbie] Install partitions help
> >
> >
> > > Jeff
> > >    Did you end up installing in your extended DOS partition?
> > >    The Automatic installation actually created 3 partitions, /, /usr,
> and
> > > /swap. Using Grub a boot partition is not needed.
> > >     The custom install would not work becuse of the size of your /
> > > partition. It need to be at least 600MB or larger, and your /usr
> partition
> > > should be larger.
> > >     If you have free space on the drive and are not worried about
moving
> > > anything in your current partitions you can use DiskDrak to create
> > > additional partitions.
> > >
> > >    Charles
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Eric MC.D" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 4:12 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [newbie] Install partitions help
> > >
> > >
> > > > Jeff Malka wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I just received my 7.1 CDs and installed Mandrake 7.1 with no
> apparent
> > > > > problems!
> > > > >
> > > > > However that was no feat because I just used the "recommended"
> > install.
> > > > > That installed everything together and I would prefer to have
> separate
> > > > > partitions for various mounting points.
> > > > >
> > > > > Prior to goinf the "recommended" install root I tried a custom
> install
> > > with
> > > > > the following partitions:
> > > > > /boot     10      MB
> > > > > /opt        516   MB
> > > > > /usr        1000 MB
> > > > > /home     1000 MB
> > > > > /             66     MB
> > > > > /var        66    MB
> > > > >
> > > > > but the install told me that did not give it enough space to
install
> > all
> > > the
> > > >
> > > > A fully isntall take about 1,3GB.
> > > > If it can help, mine is :
> > > > /boot 30 MB  (15 MB =Ok)
> > > > /usr 3 GB   (free 44%)
> > > > /       800 MB  (free 15%) (/opt included)
> > > > /usr/local 620 MB  (free 38%)
> > > > /home 1,6GB  (free 58%)
> > > > swap   256MB
> > > > Eric
> > > >
> > > > > packages.
> > > > >
> > > > > Can someone tell me how large I need to make the various
partitions
> to
> > > > > install a standard, normal install (not development, etc.)?
> > > > >
> > > > > Since this is a brand new install, I do not mind re-installing
into
> > > separate
> > > > > partitions if I only knew what sizes to make them.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jeff Malka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Registered Linux user  183185
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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