well folks, I'm trying out the ICQJava and not use the Licq anymore. I like stuff that comes with Java. This one is from the original maker from ICQ. The software is at www.ICQ.com. also need the java runtime that has the classes.zip in its library. such as jdk1.1.6 which I currently have to run the HotJava Browser. the more current one doesnt have the classes.zip in its library. more like a .jar. I tried running the current java program but did not succeed. I hope I dont get hacked on this one... LOL Rob