Hi, Dave. As a relative newcomer to Linux, only about a year ago, :) ,  I am
still learning everyday. For example, switching from a CD-R to a CD-RW
caused me a number of days searching for info as to why I could no longer
access my CD-Rom drive. You will find this a very supportive list, and the
response time is incredibly fast. Welcome to Linux! You'll be glad you
arrived, as I am.  :)

Phil Murphy
Registered Linux user 197338
Yamaha XS1100 SG

----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Emiliano Ogando <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] How to install ppp ???


> > How can i install ppp ????
>
> This is interesting.  Did your copy also come from Wal-Mart?
>
> I have a boxed version of 7.2 Complete which, I'm told, may not be so
> complete.  Among other things, it's KDE 2.0 is not the final version but a
> Beta.  Apparently, a disk is now on it's way to amend.  Thing is, I also
> got the message that it couldn't find the ppp daemon (pppd) and that I
> should install it.  I dug out RpmDrake and found the files related to pppd
> (there were 2, I think) and prepared to install them along with
> Enlightenment and the parts of Gnome that weren't installed initially.  It
> kept telling me that it couldn't communicate with the CD ROM (though it's
> actually a CD-RW and there are 2 of them in Device Manager though only one
> on my machine.. in addition to a CD-ROM which appears as it should in
> Device Manager).  That's another issue to swim through.  I may also have a
> Winmodem.  Rats.
>
> In this version of LM 7.2, the KDE is in Beta as I say.  I have 2 users
set
> up:  "dave" and "root".  The kicker in root works fine and looks just as
it
> did in the screen shots on the web tutorials.  However, there is no kicker
> loaded (and a message telling me so) in dave.  (Side note: When does a
> single user of a machine use root and, in this case, dave?)  Apparently,
> this is one of the issues that the update disk they're sending will solve.
>
> More frustratingly, one of many, many points of difference between the
> software and the manual included with it is illustrated on page 64 of the
> manual.  In that illustration, the text in the window (of available
> packages from which to choose to install) shows KDE and quite a number of
> others which are not evident in my installation screen and the ones both
> (the manual and my software version) share in common are in a different
> order.  The first two times I installed Linux (never used it before Friday
> night), I selected all the available options but 2; one on personal
> finances and another for Palm Pilot device interfaces, neither of which I
> have.  <g>  About 75% of the data in this 4 minute install came from the
> first disk with the remainder coming from the second (of the 4 in the
> package).
>
> Below that window is a button to install all components.  That choice does
> install KDE and Gnome (but only 2 other desktop environments, not
> Enlightenment, BlackBox or any others that looked interesting in the
> tutorials on the website).  Strangely, all but the last 10 seconds of data
> of a 6 minute install came from the first disk.
>
> If the manual said a particular choice detailed there might not be a
choice
> for either recommended or custom modes, it was not not available in this
> package's custom instalation.  Even if the manual warned only that it may
> not be an available choice in recommended mode installations, it was not
> available in the custom mode of this early 7.2 version of LM.  In fact,
> there were only 2 choices: 300MB minimal and custom installations.  There
> are many other differences, too.
>
> What I'm going to do is to just play with what I have for now.  As soon as
> I can get a fully functional copy of less dubious integrity, I'll work
more
> diligently to make my hardware work.  With this arrangement, I am thinking
> it futile.  Maybe what I'll do to pacify myself in the meanwhile is to buy
> a modem (to replace my 33.6 winmodem) that is possibly capable of faster
> download speeds, set up my download manager in Win98 and download the ISO
> images for the disks from the web.  I am glad to have the manual and the
> books and so forth on the other 2 disks but darn-it, it sure would be nice
> to have a copy that works.
>
> I am glad to have gotten this far in one weekend, though.  I delayed Linux
> for close to 2 years, unsure that I'd be able to "do" it.  I've read the
Re
> Hat newslist from time to time and it appeared as though people, much
> brighter than I about computers, struggled to install and configure it.
> Universally, people seem broadly satisfied with the system and so I figure
> it'll be worth the effort.  I was surprised at how easily I could run a
> dual OS drive, the choice made with Grub at boot.  I did have some
> partitioning to do both before (with Partition Magic) and during
> installation but they went without a hitch. I see no evidence in Windows
> that Linux even exists on the same machine (and visa versa so far).  My
old
> PM v. 3.0 had no trouble resizing and moving partions already in existence
> to accomodate the Linux files.
>
> On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Emiliano Ogando wrote:
>
> > How can i install ppp ????
> > Please an easy way...
> >
> --
> Dave Burrows
> 741 Cleveland Road
> Washington, PA  15301
> USA
>


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