I suspected that was how you were installing and using the themes. That too explains why you're having trouble using the themes and getting them to work. Really, there's nothing mystical about using the themes or Theme Manager. It's one of the easiest apps to use. That is provided you "add" the themes in the proper manner. ;-) The correct way to add and use themes with KDE's theme manager is to just simply download the theme.tar.gz files to a dir somewhere on your filesystem. Open Theme Manager and click on the "add" button. Navigate to the dir where the desired theme to be installed is and choose that file. Theme Manager does the rest. That's "all" there is to it. TM opens, untars, and installs "all" the theme files to a predetermined place for "it's" use and the user doesn't and shouldn't have anything to do with that. All the user is required to do is to choose the theme they wish to use and tell TM to "add" it to it's list of themes that are being loaded and used on the system. That's all there is to it. -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful." Mark, After changing the filter from *.ktheme to *.* I still cannot see the themes.tar.gz. The filter always resets. Is there another file, perhaps with the default settings to open the themes, untar, and install? By the way, can you see all of your theme.tar.gz files through the theme manager in KDE2.1 beta 2? Thanks for your help. -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293 The Tux email thread creator