Hi guys Firstly thanks for your patience when you receive basically a non Linux question. However there are a few points to consider. Please don't take this as an invitation to start a flame war, just an honest personal opinion. Quite a few people on the Newbie list are ex Windows users trying hard to escape the M$ confines. Mandrake 8 is pretty well easy to set up as a workstation however the problem arises when I try and understand how to set my Mandrake box up as an internet gateway. I have tried to locate the necessary documentation, however can only find literature relating to other distributions which doesn't help much. Don't get me wrong here about supporting M$ supported software but the lurning curve is a lot steeper when there is no one at the office who uses Linux. Unfortunately the newbie list is the first place to turn. On the bright side I have downloaded the new KOffice and can now happily open my old Word and Excel stuff, and saved them back onto my Linux machine in a format Koffice is happy with. I use KMail exclusively and in fact the last time I looked at the M$ machine was to sort my wifes mail account out. I have no further use for the Windows environment. Pardon me for digressing but my point is that unless one receives a few pointers it is damn difficult to set up the Linux side as proxy, gateway, mail server etc. without a little help from the list. Kind regards -- Mark Annandale Mandrake 8 Sent with KMail