On Saturday 29 December 2001 03:09 pm, you wrote:
> On Saturday 29 December 2001 01:44 pm, you wrote:
> > > >         Is this <fubar> repairable without major surgery?
> > >
> > > Load  "glx"
> >
> >     Well, I forgot to add that line, so I went back and did so.  Now it
> > doesn't even display the splash screen and it is still a delay with the
> > program title on the bar on the bottom of the screen with the busy cursor
> > on it and then after a while it is as if I never tried to load the app.
>
> Well, I don't really like to use their rpms.  I suggest the tarballs.  Then
> if you edited your XF86Config-4 file, you still need to rm or mv
> conflicting libraries.  There's an old script still around called
> nv_check.sh that I like to run after the installation of nvidia's drivers
> to remove any conflicts.
>
> It doesn't change anything, it just tells you what you need to do.
> -s

        Hi,

        I saved that little program you sent me to my system, but when I tried to 
run it (from a text "console(?)") but my system apparently didn't recognize 
it as a program.  It couldn't run it for me.

        What I think I need to do is figure out how to remove all my nVidia and GL 
stuff as I seem to have mangled it.  Then I need to reinstall it fresh.  I 
would very much like to keep Mandrake Linux 8.1 installed, every time I 
reinstall it sets us back.

        I assume that package manager might be able to help me, but I don't know.  I 
really don't want to be forever without 3d/GL routines.  But if my only 
option is yet another reinstall of Mandrake...  I probbably won't do it.  I 
have had no end of trouble with all of this.  I understand a lot (most) of it 
was my fault, not knowing I had to update my BIOS before my system would 
stabalize, trying all kinds of different settings to get it to work, finally 
getting the bios upgraded, then having to work thru my settings over and 
over, finally getting it to stabalize and let me use my 
mouse/keyboard/sound....

        Somewhere along this path I was able to log into "Mandrake Expert 
Installation Support" or "Mandrake Online" or something-or-other.  I thought 
that was great except I seem to have screwed that up because on subsequent 
reinstalls of Linux I try and it tells me my registration "number" is 
invalid.  I sent a letter to support@mandrakeexpert (whatever it was) and was 
told to send them my #.  About seven reinstalls later it was stable enough to 
use email again so I sent it to them and never even got a reply.  I really 
like the software, but the whole reason I bought ManLin 8.1 Powerpack from 
the Mandrake site was for the install/setup support.  A month later, I still 
don't have it.  The only support of any kind I have ever gotten is from you 
kind folks on this list and from a man named Paul Woodward from the UK.

        I realize in the spirit of Linux I should assume that I won't get anything 
from the company that I got my distribution from - but Mandrake is apparently 
a "for-profit" company with stock and such.  They advertise on the site (and 
on the box) installation support.  If I had had such a creature I would have 
been able to use linux this month instead of trying to install/screwing 
up/trying to install/repeat indefinately.  Kind of a dirty way to run a 
company if you ask me.

        Tired of pulling my hair out trying to move forward only to fall and slide 
back down the hill on my a**!

        Sorry to vent.  My question is buried in there somewhere,
        Wes Gregg
        [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        Registered Linux User # 252649

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