On May 26, 2005 01:21 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
> On Thursday 26 May 2005 18:12, Mr. Geek wrote:
<snip>
> >
> > Kaj; Here's the problem - those of us who are competent at
> > Windows troubleshooting, would be embarassed to answer your
> > request, simply because they don't want to admit that they know
> > how to fix Windows!
> >
> > Of course, not that I'm admitting anything, but the IP address
> > you've been getting is a BullSh*! IP that Windows automatically
> > sets for itself when it can't connect to, or receive an IP
> > address from a DHCP server.
> >
> > Now, if I was a Windows Guru, I'd probably be suggesting that you
> > check the network cable that you're using, but then, if the
> > problem is the same at his place AND at yours, then I'd say it
> > had everything to do with the firewall in SP2, especially if he
> > has an anti-virus program which also has a built in firewall.
> >
> > Once you have turned off these firewalls, open a shell and try
> > this; C:\ipconfig /release , followed by C:\ipconfig /renew
> >
> > Assuming that the problem was a dual-firewall problem, that
> > should fix it, otherwise, he may have a bad TCP/IP stack, which
> > you would have to un-install and re-install, or a bad network
> > card.
> >
> > Of course, since I'm NOT a Windows Guru, I can't be absolutely
> > sure about this! If possible, try re-installing Windows without
> > Service Pack 2. He'll be much better off. While you're at it, and
> > if you can find it, Service pack 1 or 1A would not only be safer
> > and his system would run faster, but you would also be able to
> > remove or shut down a lot of annoying services, which only serve
> > to open a lot of nasty ports - ie; Automatic Updates, Messenger,
> > UPnP, etc., as well as removing Outlook Express, Internet
> > Explorer (sort of), and MSN Messenger - to be replaced by AMSN
> > (Open-Source version) or Trillian Messenger both of which could
> > be found via Google.
> >
> > At the same time, you can switch him over to Mozilla T-Bird and
> > Firefox which will slow down the inevitable Windows contamination
> > and destruction, but those are just guesses, Ahem.
> >
> > After all, I don't know a thing about Windows.
>
> Thanks, Anne, Bruce, Albert and Lanman...
>
> I've printed your advice and tomorrow we'll have another go at it.
> Of course I told my friend that he'd better get rid of this POS and
> install a real OS, but he's afraid of the learning curve.  Maybe
> he'll think differently when he sees my Linux in action....
>
> On a side note :  booting his box with Knoppix works OK.
>
> Right now, we need a few...
>
> Thanks, all.
>
> Kaj Haulrich.

Hi again,

Now I don't know a thing about that POS called Windows and I don't spend, oh, 
about 85% of my time fixing ADSL, T1 and D3 connections from XP and its ilk 
so I guess I don't know anything about this.

The IP you get, as has been explained is a Zero Config IP.  I thin MDK had it 
turned on by default way back in v9.0 and got yelled at whole bunches.  
Anyway, ignore it.  It's meaningless unless it accidentally gives you the 
home IP of one William Gates.  Then either go to town or duck for cover, 
whichever seems appropriate.

The XP firewall hides.  You have to click on Network from the control panel 
then find your hardware..click on that....disable it...go to the properties 
dialog and disable it there.  Yes, it works connection by connection.  Now, 
go check your TCP/IP setup and make sure that it's okay but you do that on 
the bridge.  You might want to check the bridge for the firewall too, while 
you're at it.

After all that's done accept all the changes, sigh and reboot when it asks for 
it.  If it doesn't ask reboot anyway because I've noticed that Zero Config on 
Windows is stubborn as a mule unless you do.

When it comes back up you should have the the IP served by the ISP.  If not do 
the /release, /renew cycle until you get it.  If you don't repeat the above 
for every network device on the silly thing until you do.

Don't tear hair out, if you're like me it's probably getting precious about 
now anyway.

Do get your relative to install a real OS ASAP. :-)

Not that I know anything at all about Windows.  Nope, not me.

ttfn

John
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