On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 18:45, JoeHill wrote: > Exactly. But what if Mandriva decides to integrate KDE even further into > the OS itself, so that some or all of that choice is taken away? What I'm > concerned with is a situation where certain functionality of the OS is tied > to KDE-based services. Wanna burn a CD? Gotta have k-whatever-service > running. Wanna play sound? Gotta have k-someorother-daemon chugging away in > the background. > > Basically, I'm worried that Mandriva is spending more time making KDE > 'friendly' to Windows users, and less time just making the OS work as it > should. I'm *hoping* someone is going to tell me I'm way off base on this, > which they usually do ;-)
My concern is that Mandriva are in fact moving in the opposite direction, i.e. making everything more Gnome dependent, a lot of the stuff under the hood, like MCC and the HAL/DBUS/hot-plugging stuff is all Gtk/Gnome and has nothing to do with K. All that pop-up windows stuff when adding media stuff is 100% gnome based projects. I doubt the Gtk/Gnome crowd would ever write a CD burning app that requires KDE code, or any app for that matter. So unless Mandriva re-write rpm to block installing non-KDE apps, I think your paranoia is misplaced. If Mandriva does go that extreme, you could always go Ubuntu/Fedora/whatever, there will always be choices. K has far less hardware/os integration going on then Gnome at the moment, something to remember about KDE is that it aims to be multi-OS, i.e. it runs on the BSD's, Solaris, and others as well, so needs to be OS independent, manys the argument that goes on when code is introduced that is non-portable. Hey, and I'm not sure this is worth bragging about, come KDE4/QT4 K will even run on top of windows! For example, on the sound side of things, you may be happy to know that arts will be taken out and shot in KDE4, replaced by... nothing! K decided they are a Desktop project, not a Sound Server project, they will leave that to teh experts and will just provide a thin layer plugin system so the user can choose whatever sound server they want, gstreamer, esound, nmm, whatever. Same goes for other hardware integration, they will use whatever services are provided by the OS, not force their own hardware integration onto the OS. Part of KDE4 is also splitting their libraries up to be even smaller, less interdependent so even if you choose to use a KDE app for one thing on another DM, even fewer libraries will need to be loaded. Of course, if you choose to use a K app, then you should expect that it will load the services it needs to be running to work. Anyway, enough ranting, it's brunch-time! John. --- Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com
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