Make a relation using the 4 ways around the block, if someone moves the ways your prison moves too, the same can be done with a park, etc, etc
1) Cut the ways to the segments around the place 2) select all them in the right order one after the other 3) create relation 4) role --> outer for all ways 5) tags: type=multiplygon, leisure=park/amenity=prison/what ever, name=myprison In JOSM you can use the presets, it's faster On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 7:23 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Send newbies mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/newbies > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of newbies digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Adjacent areas (Donald Campbell II) > 2. Re: Adjacent areas (Andre Engels) > 3. Re: Adjacent areas (Dave F.) > 4. How to use relations for The Chiltern Way and its extensions > (Bob Hawkins) > 5. Re: How to use relations for The Chiltern Way and its > extensions (Xan) > 6. How to use relations for The Chiltern Way and its extensions > (Bob Hawkins) > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Donald Campbell II <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 07:14:05 -0400 > Subject: [OSM-newbies] Adjacent areas > I'm wondering what the proper way to create an adjacent area is. For > example > here<http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=6.805586&lon=-58.161404&zoom=18&layers=M>there's > a prison that takes up a full city block. Does one draw a square > using the same 4 existing nodes from the intersections around it? Or should > one zoom in and put 4 new nodes close to the existing ones? > > I do most of my editing in JOSM but can also use Potlatch when the need > arises. > > -Don. > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Andre Engels <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 13:33:38 +0200 > Subject: Re: [OSM-newbies] Adjacent areas > On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Donald Campbell II < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> I'm wondering what the proper way to create an adjacent area is. For >> example >> here<http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=6.805586&lon=-58.161404&zoom=18&layers=M>there's >> a prison that takes up a full city block. Does one draw a square >> using the same 4 existing nodes from the intersections around it? Or should >> one zoom in and put 4 new nodes close to the existing ones? >> > > New nodes are preferable. The roads are lines in DP, but have a width in > reality. Thus, the prison doesn´t really start where the line is, which is > the center of the road, but on the side of it. Even if you choose to portray > it as such (for example, because you don't want the part between the prison > and the road to be specified as something else than prison, because it's not > really residential area, and it's strange to have a hole in the residential > area here and not for other roads), it is still better to use separate > points, so that the next person, if they choose to make a more precise > mapping of the prison walls, can move the points rather than having to > create new ones. > > -- > André Engels, [email protected] > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Dave F." <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 13:11:01 +0100 > Subject: Re: [OSM-newbies] Adjacent areas > On 18/08/2011 12:14, Donald Campbell II wrote: > > I'm wondering what the proper way to create an adjacent area is. For > example > here<http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=6.805586&lon=-58.161404&zoom=18&layers=M>there's > a prison that takes up a full city block. Does one draw a square > using the same 4 existing nodes from the intersections around it? Or should > one zoom in and put 4 new nodes close to the existing ones? > > I do most of my editing in JOSM but can also use Potlatch when the need > arises. > > > It's best in this instance to create the way using new nodes. In the > editors think of the highways way as an infinitesimally narrow centre line > to represent the road. Only in the various rendering are they given any > representative width. > > The prison perimeter doesn't reach the middle of the road (half the > width/sidewalk/grass verge etc). If it did use the existing nodes & you > wanted to tag the entrance gate, that gate would appear to be blocking the > road. > > As you probably realize, prisons, disappointingly, don't render as an area > in the main renders. > > Also, the created_by tag is deprecated for ways. I think it's stored in the > changset data. > > Cheers > Dave F. > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Bob Hawkins" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 20:04:12 +0100 > Subject: [OSM-newbies] How to use relations for The Chiltern Way and its > extensions > ** > I sent an email to Talk-GB recently as the most appropriate mailing list, > perhaps. Regrettably, I received one reply only. Certainly it is no > reflection on the person who replied, but I still feel unsure about how to > proceed. To date, I have created a new relation containing part of one > extension. I wonder now whether this is a candidate for Parent/Child > Relations? If so, how is that connection made? There is no apparent > solution when I open the Parent Relations or Child Relations tabs of the > Relation Editor in JOSM. Here, then, is the text of my original email: > > The Chiltern Way has a North Extension, a South Extension and, new in 2010, > a Berkshire Loop. Perhaps this is true of some other long-distance paths. > The Chiltern Way is shown at > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_United_Kingdom_Long_Distance_Paths > as > only 33% complete. As the South Extension and part of the Berkshire Loop > are within my area of interest in South Oxfordshire, I should like to > gradually add them as relations to the already-mapped ways in order > to increase that percentage. I should be interested to learn other mappers' > views: should the three extensions be part of one existing Chiltern Way > relation, or relations in their own right, or both? If part of one existing > Chiltern Way relation, how can the three extensions be identified > separately? > > I should be grateful for someone's input. > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Xan <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 11:30:31 +0200 > Subject: Re: [OSM-newbies] How to use relations for The Chiltern Way and > its extensions > ** > Al 18/08/11 21:04, En/na Bob Hawkins ha escrit: > > I sent an email to Talk-GB recently as the most appropriate mailing list, > perhaps. Regrettably, I received one reply only. Certainly it is no > reflection on the person who replied, but I still feel unsure about how to > proceed. To date, I have created a new relation containing part of one > extension. I wonder now whether this is a candidate for Parent/Child > Relations? If so, how is that connection made? There is no apparent > solution when I open the Parent Relations or Child Relations tabs of the > Relation Editor in JOSM. Here, then, is the text of my original email: > > The Chiltern Way has a North Extension, a South Extension and, new in 2010, > a Berkshire Loop. Perhaps this is true of some other long-distance paths. > The Chiltern Way is shown at > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_United_Kingdom_Long_Distance_Paths > as > only 33% complete. As the South Extension and part of the Berkshire Loop > are within my area of interest in South Oxfordshire, I should like to > gradually add them as relations to the already-mapped ways in order > to increase that percentage. I should be interested to learn other mappers' > views: should the three extensions be part of one existing Chiltern Way > relation, or relations in their own right, or both? If part of one existing > Chiltern Way relation, how can the three extensions be identified > separately? > > I should be grateful for someone's input. > > Bob, I'm not an expert in relations. So I can't help you, sorry, but can > you provide an OSM link of this zone. This helps very much to the rest of > the people to analize this (overall the foreigns of UK ;). > > Nice to meet you, > Xan. > > > _______________________________________________ > newbies mailing > [email protected]http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/newbies > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Bob Hawkins" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 11:22:51 +0100 > Subject: [OSM-newbies] How to use relations for The Chiltern Way and its > extensions > ** > Xan, > > Here is the approximate area: > http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.754&lon=-0.556&zoom=10&layers=M. The > relation id for The Chiltern Way is 23309. Additionally, I created a > relation for 'The Chiltern Way - Berkshire Loop'. Its relation id is > 1716283. I wonder, having created it, whether it should now be added as a > single route element to the Chiltern Way relation? > > Bob > > _______________________________________________ > newbies mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/newbies > >
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