It doesn't matter if you hold in the clutch or put it in neutral, either bike 
or car. I typically hold the clutch in unless my hand is getting tired or it is 
a long light. A note on shifting, what you want to do is match the engine speed 
to what it will turn once the clutch is engaged. I'm sure you have felt either 
a loss of speed or a brief acceleration when changing gears. That is what 
happens if you don't have the engine at the right RPM when you let out the 
clutch. Practice smooth up and down shifts, if you get it right you won't be 
able to feel the shift. Usually this means slight to moderate throttle before 
engaging the clutch.
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From: Max <[email protected]>
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Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 07:21:33 
To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!<[email protected]>
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Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: RPM's and cruising (or shifting) speed

Thanks everyone for your responses. I've been listening to the bike
and trying what you all suggested, which is to shift a little early,
or earlier than I had been, and the ride is definitely a bit
smoother.  Also, I received my manual in the mail, and there is this
page that sort of suggests at what speeds shifting should occur, which
was very interesting.  It also indicated that on the speedometer,
there's an area (probably the red area), which has some kind of
stationery shifting information - I looked at my bike, and it's there,
but there's no way you'd want to be riding and glancing down at that
small pattern for guidance, you know?

I also remember watching my riding coach, and although we didn't talk
much about exactly how to shift (remember we spent the entire class in
1st and 2nd), I remember seeing him closing the throttle each time he
shifted, and I read that in the manual too, and I think that's
something I wasn't doing.

And another thing that I'm sort of having trouble remembering, or not
remembering but getting used to anyway, is constantly holding in the
clutch at stop lights and such; that feels so foreign. My dad and
granddad were both truck drivers and they fixed up old cars, so I
spent a lot of time around cars and my dad taught me how to drive a
stick on a 1986 Ford F-150 4x4, and I can remember him saying over and
over, "always put the truck in neutral - don't hold down that clutch
unless you're shifting." I know that cars and motorcycles are pretty
different, but several times at stop lights, I've put the bike in
neutral and then haven't been ready when the light changed.

Do most of you all keep the bike in first at lights, and when stopped?
My rider coach approached it from a safety standpoint, indicating that
the bike should be in first because you should be ready to react, so
I've kept that in mind, but sometimes neutral just happens out of
habit.

Anyway, thanks for all the advice.

-Max



On May 10, 8:41 pm, jaybird248 <[email protected]> wrote:
> Max, +1 on Javier's guidance that when the engine feels like it's not
> making more power as you open the throttle, it's time to upshift. At
> that point your engine will kind of be thrashing around instead of a
> steady build of sound. As you upshift, the sound will return to a
> smooth build. It shouldn't take long to learn to do it. As the old VW
> Bug ads used to say, "yes, our car has a manual transmission, but
> after you use it a few days, it becomes automatic."
>
> On May 10, 3:56 pm, Max <One of the things that I'm really
>
> > getting used to is the idea/feeling of when to shift, what the engine
> > should sound like, etc.  

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