They are only almost invisible because of the juggernaut marketing machine
that is Harley. Believe me, I see far more metrics (cruisers + sportbikes)
than I see legitimate Harleys.

Part of the issue, as I see it, is the market for a touring bike that isn't
a cruiser is somewhat small. Honda has the upmarket "rolling couch" segment
totally locked down tight with the Goldwing; everyone has heard of those.
Everyone else has to fight for those few people who want touring bikes in
something other than a V-twin, and it's a small market of knowledgeable
players so they don't typically need to do much advertising.

-Kurt

On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 7:15 PM, Pastor Ron <pastor...@cox.net> wrote:

>  I don’t think you are going to hurt Hondas image, because they are
> almost invisible at this point.  It kills me that they have a superior
> product to Harleys for the price and yet so few know it, especially when it
> comes to the ST. ****
>
> Ron****
>
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>
> *From:* nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Nolte
> *Sent:* Monday, September 10, 2012 5:13 PM
> *To:* nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Honda's New bikes****
>
> ** **
>
> But how do you sell to lady riders? Because geared up young women on
> motorcycles are definitely my preference to crusty old guys (No offense to
> any crusty old guys you might happen to know. :p). ****
>
> ** **
>
> -Kurt****
>
> ** **
>
> PS: The redhead best be on an NC700 or one of the CBR250r models. I'd had
> to have a split decision between steed and dame. ;p****
>
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 6:09 PM, Pastor Ron <pastor...@cox.net> wrote:****
>
> I agree about the advertising, but I don’t know about the Goldwing.  I’ve
> got the perfect commercial. Line up all the new bikes with a different
> color or cut of hair on each girl as they sit on the back seat of a bike. A
> red head, a blond, a brunet, a pony tale, an afro, etc. and a tattooed girl
> on fury.  Two guys who are standing there say, One says, “Yes, I like the
> brunet” and the other guy says to the camera, “How about you?” That would
> sell Hondas****
>
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