John - I'm amazed about this article. I've used a Nikormat, a FM2, a 801s and a F4s at the same job all with 50mm f1.4 lens - all used by different people & you cant tell the difference between the pics. If youv'e got camera shake in your 801 shots due to camera shake, I'd suggest it is probably due to operator induced shake not due to shutter curtain induced shake. Using a tripod will NOT make any difference to the auto focus! Using a tripod will NOT make any difference to shutter induced shake! But using a tripod WILL eliminate operator induced shake! Sometimes we see & believe what we want to see or believe and another upmarket piece of gear becomes the supposed answer. I have purchased plenty of gear over the years that has fallen into this category & had no problems - or bank debit. When talking to the ex-owners they have later admitted they just wanted to upgrade and there really wasn't a problem. I think you should sell your 801 real cheap - (because its obviously faulty) this will make some one else real happy to get a bargain that probably works fine. Perhaps you really need the new F100. Tony John Bean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The F801 shots were unusable due to camera shake. I have done comparisons >since, and >the F90x is sharper EVERY time, unless I use a tripod (which I never >normally do). >I have been told that the F90x had shutter/mirror damping improvements over the >F90 and F801 but I've no idea if this is the reason.