I don't think people are knocking on N60/50. They are solid cameras, no doubt. Nothing wrong with them. However, as with any camera, they have their limitations and for the kind of people who are active on the list, the particular limitations are quite often relevant. The major limitations that come to mind are 1. cannot meter with manual lenses (but they can be used) 2. no spot meter 3. 1fps (no need to be that fast, but at least I find 1fps very slow.) 4. no small AF zone 5. can't turn off DX (pushing is a pain) N50/60 was *not* designed for people needing fine control, IMHO. They are good at what they were designed to do -- take photos casually. Less features has a plus side of having a streamlined interface. Since N70 - which overcomes all these shortcomings - is priced not far from them, people hesitate to recommend N50/60 to the kind of photo enthusiasts who are on this list. (admittedly with a controversial interface, no need to discuss this aspect again.) In the current thread, the person had an *advanced* manual camera so many people felt that the limitation 1. was severe, which I quite agree with. On top of that, if you were using a top of the line manual camera, it seemed highly unlikely that a he would be happy with casual camera including its feel. --- Ken Aoki mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] HP> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:32:19 -0400 HP> From: "HITESH PAREKH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> HP> Subject: Re: N60 with 35-80 mm f4-5.6D lens [v04.n339/14] [v04.n341/1] HP> Message: 1 HP> John, HP> I agree with you. I use N50 (predecessor of N60) as my only camera. And I HP> absolutely love it! It has survived weddings, hikes, and even a trip to HP> Bombay (India), and given fabulous results! It certainly deserves the HP> respect. HP> - ------------------------------ HP> Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 16:50:49 -0400 HP> From: John Albino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> HP> Subject: Re: N60 with 35-80 mm f4-5.6D lens [v04.n339/14] HP> Message: 14 HP> Dave McDonald asked: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HP> For some reason the N60 doesn't get much respect (sort of the Rodney HP> Dangerfield of Nikons <grin>). This is a shame, because I like the camera a HP> lot...... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- Ken Aoki mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]