On Fri, 2011-02-18 at 20:25 -0600, Paul Boniol wrote:
> Also, I was brought up custom coding an ipchains script (which I
> directly translated to iptables) to specify as exactly as possible
> what source/destination/ports were allowed in and out, and deny all
> other traffic.  A lot of distros have pre-configured firewalls now.
> iptables has a lot of advancements that would probably make things
> shorter, but I haven't looked at the default firewall or changing my
> script much because my old script still works fine and is very secure.
>  Are the default firewalls good (with customizations) or are they just
> good enough effort until you can get a custom written firewall in
> place?

No, they're pretty much "good enough" since they're all frontends to
iptables.  The one not-so-trivial issue with any of them (and it's not
even their fault) is still the way the kernel handles ARP and that
requires a kernel patch.

You basically just need the default drop rule, a bit of shell script to
load all the ipt_ modules (just in case), a catch-all for -state
ESTABLISHED,RELATED, and then the few odd -state NEW holes for each
service you actually want the box to serve.  Tarpitting the Chinese off
of your sshd is only a matter of five or six slightly esoteric lines.
Things have come a looong way since ipchains, man.

> Debian - I tried it, very roughly around 2002.  I had trouble
> remembering how to use it's (text based) package management (and
> getting out of trouble if I pressed the wrong key) so I went back to a
> RPM distro.

It's been supplanted by Ubuntu, which is "Debian for people who can't be
arsed".

> Ubuntu - I haven't used it much recently so it may have improved, but
> I got very tired of having to put in my password every time I switched
> administrative applications.

1. That's not specifically an Ubuntu thing.
2. I think pretty much everyone's (including Ubuntu) PAM config now
caches that you auth'd up for about five minutes, so you don't have to
keep retyping it. 

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