BTW, Windows 10 doesn't override Linux any more. I'm in the Insider program
and got full Win10 OS upgrades and it leaves the bootloader intact.

On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 9:43 AM, JMJ <roadr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, it's tempting to just run Windows within Linux rather than dual-boot,
> and I might do that in the future.  But for me... for now... the quickest
> route seems to be the one with the least learning curve and that's to do
> the previously-stated "plan."  However... once I've got a Win7 install and
> don't have to worry about that over-writing my Linux install in the
> future... I could still go the VM route later, then wipe the previous NTFS
> partition and use it for other things.... right?
>
> On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 11:34 AM, Csaba Toth <csaba.toth...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> 1. I had a hard time to upgrade my tablet to Windows 10 this weekend, but
>> because it complained for space even when I managed to free up 21.6 GB with
>> tedious work (well above the required 20GB). It also restarts itself like 4
>> times during the procedure, that's very far from a one time restart of a
>> dist upgrade.
>> 2. On the other hand it wasn't easy to install Linux to my "new"
>> second-hand machine, finally it's booting. I went with btrfs striping.
>> 3. If you don't need native hardware (like GPUs for computation project),
>> then you can go with a VM. I have dual boots on all of my machines, the
>> downside is that one of the OS is dominant, and the other OS sometimes gets
>> unmaintained.
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 8:03 AM, JMJ <roadr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Perhaps... but I would probably do it the other way around, i.e. Windows
>>> installed inside Linux, just because I'm contrary like that.
>>>
>>> I probably should have mentioned that this is for a home desktop system,
>>> not something for development or any "serious" work.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Alex Smith (K4RNT) <
>>> shadowhun...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> And in my case, I would just install Linux inside a VirtualBox VM. That
>>>> would get rid of all your complaints.
>>>>
>>>> " 'With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured,
>>>> the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all
>>>> irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and
>>>> warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on, we’re all
>>>> damaged." - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG
>>>> episode "The Drumhead"
>>>> - Alex Smith
>>>> - Kent, Washington (metropolitan Seattle area)
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 7:36 AM, JMJ <roadr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> >Windows 7 doesn't have any causes to curse after.
>>>>>
>>>>> Agreed... but the mere fact that I have to do *any* of this makes me
>>>>> curse.  :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> JMJ
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Alex Smith (K4RNT) <
>>>>> shadowhun...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Windows 7 doesn't have any causes to curse after. Windows 10 is a
>>>>>> different story. However, you can install Ubuntu in userspace now on
>>>>>> Windows 10 through official channels.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just say that magic word and all of you shudder in ecstasy. ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> " 'With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech
>>>>>> censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains 
>>>>>> us
>>>>>> all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom
>>>>>> and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on, we’re all
>>>>>> damaged." - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG
>>>>>> episode "The Drumhead"
>>>>>> - Alex Smith
>>>>>> - Kent, Washington (metropolitan Seattle area)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 6:46 AM, JMJ <roadr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd be happy to avoid Win10 since Win7 works just fine for me.  But
>>>>>>> I must confess that it's tempting to have Win7 AND Win10 if I can get 
>>>>>>> Win10
>>>>>>> for free.  But that would just add layers of complexity and headache 
>>>>>>> that I
>>>>>>> really can't handle right now.  Besides, I probably won't have the new 
>>>>>>> SSD
>>>>>>> in time to get the free upgrade anyway
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The new plan will be...
>>>>>>> 1) acquire new SSD (maybe Samsung this time)
>>>>>>> 2) partition new SSD
>>>>>>> 3) install Win7
>>>>>>>    3A) Curse
>>>>>>> 4) install Fedora 23
>>>>>>>    4A) Curse a little more
>>>>>>> 5) set up an automatic backup of some sort. (any recommendations?)
>>>>>>> 6) spend weeks tweaking all the settings
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> JMJ
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