I can't answer all of those questions, but as he's using Joomla, I do know that the requirements are roughly like Wordpress: writable files, so it can be upgraded on the fly, with a MySQL database. Trying to do anything else requires a firm understanding of the internals of Joomla, and I'd say he's not prepared to do that.
If you have the time to abstract out a site, AWS can absolutely be cheaper than a conventional VPS. However, most people don't have the knowledge or the time to learn, and they'd rather just go for the conventional to meet their needs. Also, there's an implicit danger of adopting a single-vendor strategy, which is that the vendor could increase their prices in the future, and if you're not prepared to reevaluate the platform, you could be stuck with whatever that vendor chooses to charge. With a conventional VPS running Linux, moving can be as simple as taking a dump of the database, restoring elsewhere, and updating DNS. On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 9:37 AM, Tim O'Guin <timog...@gmail.com> wrote: > This really depends on the needs of the site. Is it a static site? Does it > need a database? Does it persist data on the filesystem, or is it stateless? > Is the traffic infrequent and/or spiky? Do you need to be able to monitor it > with tooling from the cloud provider? Is uptime paramount, or can you afford > to turn it off at times to safe money? What about memory and CPU > requirements? > > Smaller providers aren't necessarily cheaper than AWS. There are many ways > to optimize those costs in AWS, and you could easily get comparable pricing > to something like DigitalOcean just by planning ahead and reserving your > instance usage. You can pay for 1-year or 3-year reservations and save up to > 60% over the higher on-demand pricing. > > You'd probably be looking at a bit of a learning curve, but learning AWS > might be a benefit in itself. > > > On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 9:06 AM Gibson Prichard <gib...@prichard.tv> wrote: >> >> I second Tilghman - lowendbox.com is a useful referral site. I found >> WootHosting there and have two inexpensive VPS hosts from them. Their tech >> support is quick, but I would be hesitant to wholeheartedly recommend >> WootHosting because of performance issues, likely resulting from overselling >> a physical host. That being said, for around $25 a year, you can get a >> server to test and play with. It might make a nice failover or test-bed >> site. >> >> Gibson Prichard >> Nashville, TN >> gib...@prichard.tv >> >> On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 7:55 AM, Tilghman Lesher <tilgh...@meg.abyt.es> >> wrote: >>> >>> This is my go-to for hosting providers. https://lowendbox.com/ Note >>> that this is not a service, in itself, but rather a blog with listings >>> of many other (small) providers. Their pricing is generally a lot >>> better than some of the mainstream providers. >>> >>> My current favorite is VPS Dime, but if I need something >>> international, I go back to the source to find other providers. >>> >>> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 9:03 PM, Bucky Wolfe <pmigne...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > Running a webserver on bare metal is pretty nutty in 2018 (unless >>> > you're >>> > getting thousands of requests per second). There are actually a lot of >>> > downsides to what you're doing, particularly: you have a single point >>> > of >>> > failure (in both the lone dedicated server and the single region it's >>> > located in), you're probably not even coming close to fully utilizing >>> > the >>> > box, and could be paying 5-10x what you'd be paying if you had built >>> > something on a budget cloud provider. The question should probably be >>> > more >>> > about what your requirements are for the cloud service you choose, >>> > rather >>> > than *if* you should be using it. >>> > >>> > If you're looking for suggestions: Vultr and DigitalOcean are probably >>> > the >>> > two best budget IaaS providers out there, I'd suggest auditing them >>> > both and >>> > making your comparison against rackspace's cloud offering. If you have >>> > a ton >>> > of money to throw around, obviously AWS and GCP are more than adequate, >>> > but >>> > you get a lot more bang for your buck with the little(r) guys. Also, if >>> > you'd rather be more hands off with the maintenance of your >>> > infrastructure, >>> > you could outsource that and look into using a PaaS like Heroku. >>> > >>> > Cheers, >>> > Bucky >>> > >>> > Best, >>> > Bucky Wolfe >>> > >>> > On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 8:36 PM, Michael L <helpwithmath...@gmail.com> >>> > wrote: >>> >> >>> >> I have to make a decision soon on whether to continue running our >>> >> website >>> >> on a managed dedicated server (with firewall) or hosting our site in >>> >> the >>> >> cloud. >>> >> >>> >> Can anyone point me in the direction of a solution and/or tell me >>> >> pitfalls >>> >> to avoid? If I understood correctly, one thing Rackspace told me is >>> >> that a >>> >> cloud software firewall is something they can't offer now because of a >>> >> software acquisition making it no longer available. >>> >> >>> >> Thanks for any help. >>> >> M >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> -- >>> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> >> Groups >>> >> "NLUG" group. >>> >> To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com >>> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> >> nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>> >> For more options, visit this group at >>> >> http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en >>> >> >>> >> --- >>> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> >> Groups >>> >> "NLUG" group. >>> >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> >> an >>> >> email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > -- >>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> > Groups >>> > "NLUG" group. >>> > To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com >>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> > nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>> > For more options, visit this group at >>> > http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en >>> > >>> > --- >>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> > Groups >>> > "NLUG" group. >>> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> > an >>> > email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Tilghman >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "NLUG" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en >>> >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "NLUG" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> -- >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "NLUG" group. >> To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "NLUG" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "NLUG" group. > To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "NLUG" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Tilghman -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NLUG" group. 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