C++ is not frightening, in fact modern C++ is pretty tame. The problem is that all of these projects (KDE, Gnome) are old enough that their codebase is very large and they carry a lot of technical debt. I still fear these less than the current trendy framework (which is changing like every 5 years). So if someone builds a castle from shit based on JavaScript I trust that less all day every day vs a GNOME or KDE even though they are old codebase. Because I know that a shit castle will lead to a disaster sooner or later. I have to tell though I never wrote a desktop app for KDE / Qt or GNOME (I believe you are dealing with C there instead of C++?) but have wrote app against plain X decades ago. So from desktop developer perspective they could be very well painful.
On Sat, Nov 6, 2021 at 6:52 AM Tilghman Lesher <tilgh...@meg.abyt.es> wrote: > I dunno, Howard. I've been using KDE for ages, and the most galling > thing about it is that it's written in an abomination of a language, > C++. Second most galling is when I upgrade, and I find that an > application that I liked using has been replaced wholesale with an > application that works better, but which has a completely new name > that I can't find without a Google search. > > The only thing worse than having to write an application in KDE with > its massive collection of classes is having to write an application in > GNOME, which uses awful casts to move void pointers around, a truly > awful system. It's amazing GNOME works at all. > > On Sat, Nov 6, 2021 at 8:44 AM Howard White <hwh...@vcch.com> wrote: > > > > Greg, > > > > This is all personal preferences - YMMV. > > > > Just think, you could be running MacOS or Windows and not have any > > choice as to desktop manager... > > > > Remember the desktop manager dark ages - when Microsoft cane out with > > Windows 8 and Ubuntu allowed Unity to escape? Yours truly was in a > > world of hurt. Now I continue to use Gnome Flashback because it allows > > me to manage my work spaces in a manner that is productive for me. > > > > Native Gnome 3 is not helpful. > > xfce - meh > > KDE - too much like emacs > > Enlightenment - spend more time setting up than using > > Windows 10 - annoying > > MacOS - Really? How much overhead for glitz? > > > > I admit to being an old(er) dog who is set in his desktop ways. > > > > Howard > > > > On 11/6/21 5:02 AM, Greg Donald wrote: > > > On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 12:32 PM Csaba Toth <csaba.toth...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > >> > > >> It is a true tragedy which even Linux users often don't realize and > are just blissfully > > >> ignorant against. And unfortunately by Debian dragging its feet > > > > > > Awesome! Can we next talk about which desktop environment is best? > > > Gnome sucks. xfce4 is the best. Who's with me? > > > > > > > > > > -- > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "NLUG" group. > > To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en > > > > --- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "NLUG" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/nlug-talk/2f6dbc7e-8ce2-7b3a-b9f3-1cfee9d1b90d%40vcch.com > . > > > > -- > Tilghman > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "NLUG" group. > To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "NLUG" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/nlug-talk/CAHPkZcWv5CSfodTbJWMXVwYQWtDiHZ%2B5Ejr8%3D3dFXG2S4YaiYw%40mail.gmail.com > . > -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NLUG" group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NLUG" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/nlug-talk/CA%2BKhHxLWXBHVP3%2BKKG%3Dy5ZXFwB3PLxsq9_DXOAo7iuGkfpbPWQ%40mail.gmail.com.
