I don't feel any rudeness from you. But I do feel like we're failing to
communicate. Maybe someone else can chime in?
On Saturday, August 17, 2013 7:13:53 PM UTC-4, Mark Hahn wrote:
>
> Oh, I just realized he is you. Again I hope you don't think I'm rude.
>
> On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Mark Hahn <ma...@reevuit.com<javascript:>
> > wrote:
>
>> The blog that the OP pointed to said that in coffeescript you can't place
>> the calling code higher in the file than the called function definition. He
>> was wrong. He ruled out coffeescript for this reason. That is incorrect
>> and you can code the style he is promoting in coffeescript.
>>
>> I felt this was important and I was worried your post would corroborate
>> that incorrect claim.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Andrew Kelley
>> <super...@gmail.com<javascript:>
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> You didn't sound rude to me - it's fine.
>>>
>>> I am specifically talking about calling a function before defining it.
>>> That's the whole point. What I said holds true.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, August 17, 2013 5:02:51 PM UTC-4, Mark Hahn wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ok, I apologize for the rudeness in my tone. Let me explain what is
>>>> going on.
>>>>
>>>> Your example fails not because the call is above the definition in the
>>>> file, it fails because the call happens before the definition in time.
>>>>
>>>> My example has the call above the definition in the file but the
>>>> definition happens before the call in time.
>>>>
>>>> So mine succeeds and yours doesn't. The important thing for the
>>>> readability of the code is that the call is above the definition in the
>>>> file. This makes the code read as if it is linear. The need for the extra
>>>> start() at the bottom is a small price to pay. Also, I only have this call
>>>> at the bottom of each module.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Mark Hahn <ma...@reevuit.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> > ReferenceError: doNext is not defined
>>>>>
>>>>> Wrong. Run it. It works great. The first two lines are just
>>>>> assignments. So they are both defined when start runs.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've gotten this exact response when I've posted this before. People
>>>>> blindly believe the myth.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Andrew Kelley <super...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> doNext()
>>>>>> doNext = ->
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ReferenceError: doNext is not defined
>>>>>>
>>>>>> vs
>>>>>>
>>>>>> doNext()
>>>>>> function doNext() {
>>>>>>
>>>>>> }
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, August 17, 2013 2:47:07 PM UTC-4, Mark Hahn wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > First to note - Coffee-Script actually *prohibits* this kind of
>>>>>>> code organization, because all functions are necessarily assignments.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is a myth that you have to put function definitions before the
>>>>>>> calling code in coffee. Here is a pattern I use in all my code ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> start = -> doNext()
>>>>>>> doNext = -> ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> start()
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Andrew Kelley
>>>>>>> <super...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wrote this article as a response to all the recent callback
>>>>>>>> hate:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://andrewkelley.me/post/**js**-callback-organization.html<http://andrewkelley.me/post/js-callback-organization.html>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It contains:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Acknowledgement of better async syntax than what callbacks
>>>>>>>> offer
>>>>>>>> - Tips on how to structure callback based code
>>>>>>>> - Reasons why you might want to stick with js instead of a
>>>>>>>> compile-to-js language.
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