On 8 Dec 2013, at 18:24, // ravi wrote:
On Dec 7, 2013, at 12:25 PM, Bradley M. Kuhn <bk...@ebb.org> wrote:
rather than speak in the abstract, why not consider the actual
proposals made that I was referring to: transfer of NodeJS to Apache
or Eclipse. Are either of these public charities? Did I misread the
Apache web site when I listed that the ASF is sponsored by a number of
profit-motivated organisations?
The ASF accepts donations and they come from profit-motivated
organizations too:
http://apache.org/foundation/sponsorship.html
Current sponsors:
http://www.apache.org/foundation/thanks.html
However one cannot donate to a "project" but only to the foundation. In
example, it is not possible to donate to Apache Log4j. The foundation
would take the donation and spend it where it thinks may fit best.
Mostly this is some infrastructure.
Also, I am not certain that “influence” can be defined clearly
enough to regulate the effect of sponsoring entities. I do agree that
a level of indirection is obtained by introducing a regulated
foundation between sponsors and the project. I differ, perhaps, in my
inability to see a problem in the arrangement, as it exists today (one
mostly well-reasoned blog post with a couple of ill-chosen
words/hypotheticals does not a nuclear winter make!).
In all the time i have been at the ASF i have not seen a company having
direct influence. All committers are individuals first. In some cases
some individuals are paid by an company. But this is usually no harm
because every committer/pmc member at a project has the same voice.
The ASF board will step in if a company tries to abuse a project. I have
seen this one time.
Please let me know if you are having more questions.
Cheers,
Christian
Regards,
—ravi
Isaac Schlueter wrote at 11:43 (EST) on Friday:
I'm sorry, google groups decided that you're a spammer. That should
be
cleared up now.
Thanks for any effort you did in fixing it. FWIW, I messed with my
SPF
records (which originally had a -all instead of a ~all, although the
criteria should have been met regardless, so that shouldn't have
mattered). And, sorry again what ended up happening is that you got
spammed with five of my emails in the end, days after I posted them.
:)
[0] I used to be heavily involved in the Perl community, and it led
me
to write a blog post last year at Perl's 25th anniversary to talk
about how Perl is the new COBOL, and that there isn't actually
anything wrong with that:
http://ebb.org/bkuhn/blog/2012/12/18/perl-cobol.html
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