On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Douglas Regehr <[email protected]> wrote:
> Here's how I would accomplish this in Non:
> 1. In the timeline, split the piano track into multiple segments e.g. one
> segment for verse 1, one for chorus 1, etc.
> 2. Adjust the gain of each segment by holding the letter G while clicking
> and dragging the segment.
> 3. Adjust the start/end of each segment so it overlaps with the adjacent
> segments
> 4. Set the fade in/out of each segment to achieve a cross-fade.
>
> Because the segments are cross-faded, you will hear a smooth change in gain.
> The more you overlap the segments, the longer the transition.  Make sure to
> use "linear" fade in/out, or else the transition won't be smooth.  In some
> situations it may be unnecessary to overlap and crossfade e.g. in a vocal
> track where there is a pause.  Always listen to the results -- if you hear
> clicks or pops then the cross-fade is too short or the fade in and fade out
> are not the same length.  Non adds a tiny fade in/out to each segment
> already, so you often don't need to cross-fade at all.
>
> I find this approach much easier than using Non's automation.  For vocal
> tracks that require a highly processed radio-friendly sound, I will split
> the track into dozens of segments, cross-fade and adjust gain, then add
> aggressive compression.  I only use the faders in non-mixer for "overall"
> adjustments.  In fact, I think if I were ever forced to use another DAW I'd
> probably use this approach too...though I somehow doubt splitting, fading,
> etc. are as quick in other DAWs as they are in Non...
>
> Doug
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 7:45 PM, John Rigg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 09, 2014 at 07:57:29PM +0100, Atte wrote:
>> > 5) Actually the way I would have preferred to do this was to set the
>> > attenuation in a simple amplifier and then switch it on in all choruses
>> > and bypass is elsewhere. All choruses needs the same treatment and this
>> > way I would be able to change one value and have it affect all choruses.
>> > Unfortunately it's not possible to control bypass switch of a module in
>> > non. Would this be possible to add?
>>
>> A possible workaround might be to split the choruses onto a separate
>> channel
>> and set the fader lower (but you've probably thought of that).
>>
>> I haven't tried fine gain control automation in Non yet. I often make very
>> small gain changes with Ardour's gain line, but from what you say this
>> might
>> not be so easy in Non. Sounds like a job for an amplifier plugin with a
>> scaled down response to control signals.
>>
>> John

This is basically what I do as well, although I do sometimes use gain
automation for master fade outs (however I think this is actually
better left to the mastering stage where you can just use region fades
for this).


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