Dear Ms. Das, Thanks for your views. My statement "people don't want to mix charity and entertainment" is naturally based on my personal views formed based on what I know about my friends and others who I come in contact with. I am no social researcher, therefore it is only fair that my views are taken with a pince of salt. If I may say so, you have been a bit hasty with your example, which comes from a completely different culture. I was talking about the situation in India where transparency is generally the exception than the norm. It is precisely the difficulty in "marketing" a charity event that prompted me to offer my suggestions. "Marketing" works in such cases if it is done by word of mouth: if my friend tells me he/she knows the oragnisers and it is for a good cause, I may be inclined to trust my friend. On the other hand, if I see a poster of a charity event, I may not react the same way. In the present case, the event was of the latter type; hence my short line about mixing priorities. Sorry about the long mail. Sometimes subtleties get lost if one tries to be brief. Regards, Bhagya
--- On Mon, 11/1/10, Arunjana Das <arunjana....@gmail.com> wrote: From: Arunjana Das <arunjana....@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [NorthEastIndia] Assam pays tribute to 2008 Blast Victims by organizing cultural functiom To: "Bhagya Konwar" <bkon...@yahoo.com> Cc: northeastindia@yahoogroups.com, "rajdeep kar" <rajdeep_...@yahoo.co.in>, rritu...@gmail.com, rajdeep...@gmail.com Date: Monday, November 1, 2010, 7:40 PM If I may be so presumptuous as to offer my two-cents in the matter, I would say that we are getting lost in a flurry of views/ opinions as to whether mixing charity with commercial entertainment is ethical or moral. With due respect, this question is in a completely different realm and beyond the scope of the current subject. The bottom-line is whether the families of the blast victims benefited from the show. If they did, I salute the organizers for the noble effort. Having said that, there is always room for improvement. I am no authority on the subject, but if we look around, we may find that involving celebrities in charity shows is a tried and tested model. When done well with some amount of transparency and accountability, it can be very effective. A lot also depends on how the event is marketed among the target audience, which I suspect, is causing some amount of bile among our friends in the group. In my humble opinion, organizing an event like this requires a lot of effort, for which, I thank the organizers. If there were things which they could have done better, I am sure the members of this community wouldn't mind offering some relevant suggestions and providing some constructive criticism. I appreciate Mr. Bhagya Konwar's suggestions, although I do not agree with his point on people not wanting to mix their chaity and entertainment. A very strong example to defend my point is the recent turnout at the "rally to restore sanity/ fear" at the National mall in Washington, DC. It was a purely comedic venture, which drew around 250,000 people! They made it a point to announce beforehand that all proceeds will be donated to the National Mall Trust. I don't have the numbers on how much money the show made, considering it was a free show. But, going by the amount of merchandise people bought, I would say a few thousand dollars. For what it is worth, if the organizers are interested, I can do some research and point to some commercial charity ventures that have worked well. Best, Arunjana On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Bhagya Konwar <bkon...@yahoo.com> wrote: Hi, If I may be allowed to offfer a bit of unsolicited advice: We live in cynical times. This is not to blame people who are cynical: they may have good reasons to be so. Therefore, when we try to do something for others, it is better to say it after we have done that something, than to advertise what we "intend to do". To take the example of the show, it could have been organised/advertised as a purely com mercial entertainment with leading musical performers participating. No one was going to prevent the organisers from declaring during the show, or even afterwards, that they were going to donate the profits for the victims of the blast. Even better, in my opinion, would have been to quietly donate the profits without telling anyone. Lest this sounds like I am taking a "holier than thou" attitude, I hasten to point out that my advice has practical sides to it. (1) people these days do not want to mix-up their charity and their entertainment (2) It removes the suspicion that someone is trying to make a profit in the name of charity (3) No expectation would be created about the charity part (it is a commercial profit/loss vernture after all), thereby freeing the organisers to focus on making as much money as possible without losing sleep over "what people will think if we do this or that". The goal, after all, was to make as much money as possible (for the victims)! (4) if the organisers made a loss, they simply would have made a loss: they would not have to explain to suspicous patrons why they were not donating anything! Regards, Bhagya --- On Mon, 11/1/10, rajdeep kar <rajdeep_...@yahoo.co.in> wrote: From: rajdeep kar <rajdeep_...@yahoo.co.in> Subject: [NorthEastIndia] Assam pays tribute to 2008 Blast Victims by organizing cultural functiom To: northeastindia@yahoogroups.com Cc: rritu...@gmail.com, rajdeep...@gmail.com Date: Monday, November 1, 2010, 6:27 PM Absolutely Rritu da.Rather than going by the subject line,I guess the below concerned individuals should try to understand the main motive behind organizing the event .The subject line was just to attract the masses to the occurance,nothing beyond that.Moreover, everyone is doing/has done their part to assist the victims to his/her utmost capability in his/her own way. And yep, arrears/typos do happen by human and I have corrected that in my next mail.Not sure if the so called äppalled" individual has noticed that. Cheers, Rajdeep ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: rrituraj SHARMA <rritu...@gmail.com> Date: Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 4:19 AM Subject: Re: [NorthEastIndia] Digest Number 2131 To: North East <northeastindia@yahoogroups.com> Cc: "Rajdeep :: AlBuM UpDaTeD!!!" <rajdeep...@gmail.com> Buljit, Ankur and rest of the members, I understand when you ask these questions. But at the same time, I think this show was organised with a view to raise money (please note that this was a paid show) which in turn would be used to support the victims. And if this understanding is correct, I don't see this as insensitive but another means of generating funds to be used for a noble cause. Rajdeep, please confirm if this understanding is correct. Best, Rrituraj On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 7:40 AM, <NorthEastIndia@yahoogroups.com> wrote: North East India Professionals Messages In This Digest (3 Messages) 1a. Assam pays tribute to 2008 blast victims by organizing cultural func From: Buljit Buragohain 1b. Re: Assam pays tribute to 2008 blast victims by organizing cultural From: Ankur Bora 1c. Assam - Land of opportunity From: swakshar chakravarty View All Topics | Create New Topic Messages 1a. Assam pays tribute to 2008 blast victims by organizing cultural func Posted by: "Buljit Buragohain" buluas...@yahoo.co.in buluassam Sat Oct 30, 2010 11:29 am (PDT) Assam pays tribute to 2008 blast victims by organizing cultural function????????????? Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (3) 1b. Re: Assam pays tribute to 2008 blast victims by organizing cultural Posted by: "Ankur Bora" ankur_bora2...@yahoo.com ankur_bora2000 Sat Oct 30, 2010 3:53 pm (PDT) Buljit, I echo your sentiment . In fact a few days back there was a posting in this yahoo group with the subject. A Musical Nite With ANGARAAG MAHANTA,AURKO & BANDISHE::30th Oct. '10 The individual concerned even not bothered to check a line in the flier - A tribute to the 30/10/2008 serial bomb blast in Assam. I am appalled at the insensitivity on such postings. At the same time , I would like to point out that organization like Assam Foundation of North America , Friends of Assam and Seven Sisters and Just for Assam , UK is working for the rehabilitation of the blast victims. I am mentioning this because the subject line will convey a different message otherwise. Ankur Dallas , Texas --- On Sat, 10/30/10, Buljit Buragohain <buluas...@yahoo.co.in> wrote: From: Buljit Buragohain <buluas...@yahoo.co.in> Subject: [NorthEastIndia] Assam pays tribute to 2008 blast victims by organizing cultural function????????????? To: NorthEastIndia@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, October 30, 2010, 11:28 AM Assam pays tribute to 2008 blast victims by organizing cultural function????????????? Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (3) 1c. Assam - Land of opportunity Posted by: "swakshar chakravarty" swaks...@hotmail.com Sat Oct 30, 2010 11:12 pm (PDT) Dear All, I always wonders as to why assam with having arguable the most natural stretch of fertile land doesn't figure in as the top agricultural states. Presently based out of chennai and having been exposed to some of the developments in this field, I am looking it exploring the same in Assam. However, i need help from all of you, Can you pl direct me to concerned agencies / people who are involved in this field.. the effot is truly appreciated. Cheers Swakshar PS: I am banker by Profession !! 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