Rolf, I found the cab file on my other computer. I installed it on the Vista 
emulator and it works..YIPEE! I am now able to do the same as I do on the XP. I 
get a message that Active Sync isn't running when I press F5 on the desktop but 
it still updates the progam on the emulator so I'm happy. I would still like to 
know where to get the device emulator manager. Thanks again for everything.

Jim


--- In [email protected], "cschuchert" <cschuch...@...> wrote:
>
> Rolf, you have really gone the extra mile on this. Thank you so much. 
> However, it looks like you have posted a path from your computer to the cab 
> files that isn't on mine. Is it possible to post a link to the file or email 
> it to me. Use jschuch...@... if you do. Also, where did you find the emulator 
> manager that is shown on your web site. Thanks again for all of your efforts.
> 
> Jim
> 
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "rbsoft42" <rolf@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Jim,
> > 
> > I have extended the instructions how to install the NSBasic runtimes on the 
> > Emulator and where to find the cab files for this. Look it up here:
> > 
> > http://pb.rbsoft.eu/nsb/emulator.htm
> > 
> > Hope that helps you further.
> > 
> > Since ActiveSync is not compatible with Vista you will have to use Windows 
> > Mobile Center under Vista.
> > 
> > Rolf
> > 
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], "cschuchert" <cschuchert@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Ok, I think I know how to get nsbasic on the emulator with the XP. I 
> > > wasn't cradling the emulator after starting active sync. It is doing what 
> > > I want now. Didn't have to use a device but did have to have active sync.
> > > 
> > > Now for the Vista...can't use active sync here but maybe I can figure out 
> > > how to use the Windows Mobile Center. Still...I would like to hear from 
> > > you.
> > > 
> > > Jim
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In [email protected], "cschuchert" <cschuchert@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Rolf and Al (if you are monitoring),
> > > > 
> > > > I am pulling my hair out over this seemingly simple problem.
> > > > 
> > > > Here is what I am finding...
> > > > XP computer:
> > > > I have a 2003 se emulator and a device manager. Before I turned off my 
> > > > computer last night, I was able to edit my code on the desktop, start 
> > > > the program (F5) and the result was synched to the emulator and I could 
> > > > open the program file. This was done without active sync running or a 
> > > > device attached. Somehow I must have installed nsbasic on the emulator 
> > > > but I don't know how it happened. I never did make an active sync 
> > > > connection with the emulator (using dma) but I was going back and forth 
> > > > with the device before I disconnected it. I was surprised that it 
> > > > worked so easily with only the emulator and the desktop in action. 
> > > > Today...zippo, zilch, nyet, squat, nothing. Back to square one. 
> > > > 
> > > > Vista Computer:
> > > > Downloaded the correct images from the link you sent and installed the 
> > > > emulator. Configured it to use a shared folder. All of the files from 
> > > > the desktop folder show up on the emulator and I can even read my 
> > > > program's manual there. Everything is in the 'storage card' folder.
> > > > 
> > > > Opened the desktop nsb folder, double clicked the program file 
> > > > (pocketcogo.nsb) and it installed the program on the desktop. This is 
> > > > how I thought it installed nsbasic on the XP emulator yesterday because 
> > > > of the shared folder. 
> > > > 
> > > > The key is getting nsb installed on the emulator. This is where I come 
> > > > up short. Both you and Al have said to do it the same as though I was 
> > > > installing to the device. If I were installing to the device, I would 
> > > > connect it and use active sync but Vista doesn't support Active Sync. 
> > > > Even if I used Windows Mobile Device Center, I would have to connect 
> > > > the device. I guess I expected the 'shared folder' to take care of it.
> > > > 
> > > > I have read your instructions several times but keep getting stuck on 
> > > > installing nsbasic on the emulator. I did install Total Commander using 
> > > > the cab file I downloaded. It looks like the only way to do it is have 
> > > > a cab file for nsb or be able to use Windows Mobile Center together 
> > > > with the emulator.  Sorry to be a PITA.
> > > > 
> > > > Jim
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In [email protected], "rbsoft42" <rolf@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello Jim,
> > > > > 
> > > > > first of all here is the link to newer emulator images:
> > > > > 
> > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=1a7a6b52-f89e-4354-84ce-5d19c204498a&displaylang=en
> > > > > 
> > > > > It makes no difference if you use Vista or XP - I use the emulator 
> > > > > under both OS.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Once you have started and loaded the desired emulator you will have 
> > > > > to install NSBasic to the emulator just as you would to a normal 
> > > > > device. After this the emulator will have associated the nsb 
> > > > > extension with the NSBasic.
> > > > > 
> > > > > As Explorer shell on the emulator (and on devices as well) I would 
> > > > > recommend TotalCommander CE. It is absolutely great and it's 
> > > > > freeware. You can download it here:
> > > > > 
> > > > > http://www.ghisler.com/ce.htm
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hope that helps.
> > > > > Rolf
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In [email protected], "cschuchert" <cschuchert@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rolf, thank you for your quick reply. I did what you suggested 
> > > > > > using  XP (not sure you were also describing Vista). Everything 
> > > > > > went fine until I attempted to run the program from the emulator. 
> > > > > > That's when I got "not associated with any application" (name of my 
> > > > > > app is pocketcogo.nsb). So I put the program in the NSB folder 
> > > > > > where NSBCEIDE.EXE is (the associated file for nsb types) and still 
> > > > > > got the same message. This is the shared folder. I can't figure a 
> > > > > > way to make the proper association  within the emulator. When I try 
> > > > > > to execute the ide, it is not a valid application. Sorry to be so 
> > > > > > dense but I can't go further.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I only have 1 emulator from which to choose (2003 se) but would 
> > > > > > like to also have mobile 5 emulation. Where can I get a selection 
> > > > > > of emulators and an updated device manager.?  Thank you for your 
> > > > > > help.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Jim
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In [email protected], "rbsoft42" <rolf@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Really there is not much need for ActiveSynch if you want to run 
> > > > > > > an app in the emulator. I use it this way:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Start the emulator manager.
> > > > > > > Connect the desired image.
> > > > > > > Go to <File><Configure>
> > > > > > > Under the tab General set Shared Folder to NSB App Folder. This 
> > > > > > > emulates a SD Card. 
> > > > > > > Run your app from there using file explorer or something like 
> > > > > > > Total Commander.
> > > > > > > Save the settings of the emulator image.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Rolf
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "cschuchert" <cschuchert@> 
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > My main computer is a Vista machine and will primarily use it 
> > > > > > > > for NSB work. Below are 2 related issues.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I am upgrading my app created with nsb 6.5, Win XP, active 
> > > > > > > > sync, a device emulator and device emulator manager. At the 
> > > > > > > > time, I could use the emulator without the device connected and 
> > > > > > > > work on my program. Now it doesn't work that way although I am 
> > > > > > > > following the same procedure I wrote down about a year ago. It 
> > > > > > > > cannot find the emulated device using the DMA port and the 
> > > > > > > > device not in its cradle. I did it before but not now.
> > > > > > > > The process was:
> > > > > > > > Load device emulator
> > > > > > > > Install Active Sync
> > > > > > > > Load device emulator manager
> > > > > > > > Execute one of the runtimes...basic.ppc.exe or 
> > > > > > > > runtimefat.ppc.exe
> > > > > > > > Install my app with F5 (or use explore in active sync)
> > > > > > > > cradle the emulator using the emulator manager
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > However, I can active sync the application to the device so 
> > > > > > > > long as the device is in the cradle but I have to debug using 
> > > > > > > > the device after each code edit. This would be my second choice.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Second issue:
> > > > > > > > I also cannot figure out how to use the MS emulator for Vista 
> > > > > > > > that I just downloaded. It connects fine with the ipaq device 
> > > > > > > > but how do I get the emulation on my pc without the device 
> > > > > > > > connected?  Here, again, I can sync the program to the device 
> > > > > > > > if it is in its cradle. Second choice again.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > If there are any emulator gurus who can help me out, I will be 
> > > > > > > > very grateful.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Jim Schuchert
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>



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