The download to the Device Emulator Manager is the first download listed
in the Tech Note:
<http://www.nsbasic.com/ce/info/technotes/TN23.htm>

"A. Download the Microsoft Device Emulator 2.0:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?
FamilyId=13F5DE85-30CD-4506-9C5B-A2068FA1EE9E&displaylang=en (1.1 megs)"

>Rolf, I found the cab file on my other computer. I installed it on the
>Vista emulator and it works..YIPEE! I am now able to do the same as I do
>on the XP. I get a message that Active Sync isn't running when I press
>F5 on the desktop but it still updates the progam on the emulator so I'm
>happy. I would still like to know where to get the device emulator
>manager. Thanks again for everything.
>
>Jim
>
>
>--- In [email protected], "cschuchert" <cschuch...@...> wrote:
>>
>> Rolf, you have really gone the extra mile on this. Thank you so much.
>However, it looks like you have posted a path from your computer to the
>cab files that isn't on mine. Is it possible to post a link to the file
>or email it to me. Use jschuch...@... if you do. Also, where did you
>find the emulator manager that is shown on your web site. Thanks again
>for all of your efforts.
>> 
>> Jim
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --- In [email protected], "rbsoft42" <rolf@> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello Jim,
>> > 
>> > I have extended the instructions how to install the NSBasic runtimes
>on the Emulator and where to find the cab files for this. Look it up here:
>> > 
>> > http://pb.rbsoft.eu/nsb/emulator.htm
>> > 
>> > Hope that helps you further.
>> > 
>> > Since ActiveSync is not compatible with Vista you will have to use
>Windows Mobile Center under Vista.
>> > 
>> > Rolf
>> > 
>> > 
>> > --- In [email protected], "cschuchert" <cschuchert@> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Ok, I think I know how to get nsbasic on the emulator with the XP.
>I wasn't cradling the emulator after starting active sync. It is doing
>what I want now. Didn't have to use a device but did have to have
active sync.
>> > > 
>> > > Now for the Vista...can't use active sync here but maybe I can
>figure out how to use the Windows Mobile Center. Still...I would like to
>hear from you.
>> > > 
>> > > Jim
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > --- In [email protected], "cschuchert" <cschuchert@> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Rolf and Al (if you are monitoring),
>> > > > 
>> > > > I am pulling my hair out over this seemingly simple problem.
>> > > > 
>> > > > Here is what I am finding...
>> > > > XP computer:
>> > > > I have a 2003 se emulator and a device manager. Before I turned
>off my computer last night, I was able to edit my code on the desktop,
>start the program (F5) and the result was synched to the emulator and I
>could open the program file. This was done without active sync running
>or a device attached. Somehow I must have installed nsbasic on the
>emulator but I don't know how it happened. I never did make an active
>sync connection with the emulator (using dma) but I was going back and
>forth with the device before I disconnected it. I was surprised that it
>worked so easily with only the emulator and the desktop in action.
>Today...zippo, zilch, nyet, squat, nothing. Back to square one. 
>> > > > 
>> > > > Vista Computer:
>> > > > Downloaded the correct images from the link you sent and
>installed the emulator. Configured it to use a shared folder. All of the
>files from the desktop folder show up on the emulator and I can even
>read my program's manual there. Everything is in the 'storage card' folder.
>> > > > 
>> > > > Opened the desktop nsb folder, double clicked the program file
>(pocketcogo.nsb) and it installed the program on the desktop. This is
>how I thought it installed nsbasic on the XP emulator yesterday because
>of the shared folder. 
>> > > > 
>> > > > The key is getting nsb installed on the emulator. This is where
>I come up short. Both you and Al have said to do it the same as though I
>was installing to the device. If I were installing to the device, I
>would connect it and use active sync but Vista doesn't support Active
>Sync. Even if I used Windows Mobile Device Center, I would have to
>connect the device. I guess I expected the 'shared folder' to take care
of it.
>> > > > 
>> > > > I have read your instructions several times but keep getting
>stuck on installing nsbasic on the emulator. I did install Total
>Commander using the cab file I downloaded. It looks like the only way to
>do it is have a cab file for nsb or be able to use Windows Mobile Center
>together with the emulator.  Sorry to be a PITA.
>> > > > 
>> > > > Jim
>> > > > 
>> > > > 
>> > > > 
>> > > > 
>> > > > 
>> > > > 
>> > > > 
>> > > > --- In [email protected], "rbsoft42" <rolf@> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Hello Jim,
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > first of all here is the link to newer emulator images:
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?
>FamilyID=1a7a6b52-f89e-4354-84ce-5d19c204498a&displaylang=en
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > It makes no difference if you use Vista or XP - I use the
>emulator under both OS.
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > Once you have started and loaded the desired emulator you will
>have to install NSBasic to the emulator just as you would to a normal
>device. After this the emulator will have associated the nsb extension
>with the NSBasic.
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > As Explorer shell on the emulator (and on devices as well) I
>would recommend TotalCommander CE. It is absolutely great and it's
>freeware. You can download it here:
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > http://www.ghisler.com/ce.htm
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > Hope that helps.
>> > > > > Rolf
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > --- In [email protected], "cschuchert" <cschuchert@>
wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Rolf, thank you for your quick reply. I did what you
>suggested using  XP (not sure you were also describing Vista).
>Everything went fine until I attempted to run the program from the
>emulator. That's when I got "not associated with any application" (name
>of my app is pocketcogo.nsb). So I put the program in the NSB folder
>where NSBCEIDE.EXE is (the associated file for nsb types) and still got
>the same message. This is the shared folder. I can't figure a way to
>make the proper association  within the emulator. When I try to execute
>the ide, it is not a valid application. Sorry to be so dense but I can't
>go further.
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > I only have 1 emulator from which to choose (2003 se) but
>would like to also have mobile 5 emulation. Where can I get a selection
>of emulators and an updated device manager.?  Thank you for your help.
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > Jim
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > --- In [email protected], "rbsoft42" <rolf@> wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Really there is not much need for ActiveSynch if you want
>to run an app in the emulator. I use it this way:
>> > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > Start the emulator manager.
>> > > > > > > Connect the desired image.
>> > > > > > > Go to <File><Configure>
>> > > > > > > Under the tab General set Shared Folder to NSB App Folder.
>This emulates a SD Card. 
>> > > > > > > Run your app from there using file explorer or something
>like Total Commander.
>> > > > > > > Save the settings of the emulator image.
>> > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > Rolf
>> > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "cschuchert"
><cschuchert@> wrote:
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > My main computer is a Vista machine and will primarily
>use it for NSB work. Below are 2 related issues.
>> > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > I am upgrading my app created with nsb 6.5, Win XP,
>active sync, a device emulator and device emulator manager. At the time,
>I could use the emulator without the device connected and work on my
>program. Now it doesn't work that way although I am following the same
>procedure I wrote down about a year ago. It cannot find the emulated
>device using the DMA port and the device not in its cradle. I did it
>before but not now.
>> > > > > > > > The process was:
>> > > > > > > > Load device emulator
>> > > > > > > > Install Active Sync
>> > > > > > > > Load device emulator manager
>> > > > > > > > Execute one of the runtimes...basic.ppc.exe or
>runtimefat.ppc.exe
>> > > > > > > > Install my app with F5 (or use explore in active sync)
>> > > > > > > > cradle the emulator using the emulator manager
>> > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > However, I can active sync the application to the device
>so long as the device is in the cradle but I have to debug using the
>device after each code edit. This would be my second choice.
>> > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > Second issue:
>> > > > > > > > I also cannot figure out how to use the MS emulator for
>Vista that I just downloaded. It connects fine with the ipaq device but
>how do I get the emulation on my pc without the device connected?  Here,
>again, I can sync the program to the device if it is in its cradle.
>Second choice again.
>> > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > If there are any emulator gurus who can help me out, I
>will be very grateful.
>> > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > Jim Schuchert
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
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